First Cameras - webpage situated in Rusia

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First Cameras - firstcameras.net

webpage situated in Rusia

First Cameras
13 Frensham Road , Norwich, NR3 2BT United Kingdom

Phone: 0044 - 020 3239 8835
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webpage situated in Rusia and not UK .
http://www.iplocationfinder.com/

They use address of true uk seller warehouseexpress ...you can look it up with street view .



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That's what I was looking for. Thank you!

Stay away from www.firstcameras.net they are stealing peoples money they are using the address of Warehouse Express LTD and they have nothing to do with www.firstcameras.net or so called Camera Warehouse LTD. Please note that www.1stcameras.com (1st Cameras Imaging Centre)have no affiliation with this website what so ever

I found their link on Amazon's page of a Canon 550D ; on other Amazon's page the link is : www.salefirstcameras.net. Their "callcenter" doesn't respond. . . But I've found no way to alert Amazon

I tried all day today to call their "Call Center": Either no response or "the person you are trying to call is not available". Although I was impressed by professional website and attractive content and prices I´ll stay off. I also did not get an answer to my e-mail sent this morning.
KR
Mattes
PS: I also found their link on Amazon

It makes me rememer another fake website called "Justcanon.net". It is closed now (it simply disapeared) but they were many weeks on the web around Xmas. The Canon D5 Mark 2 was sold at the same price 1299 €... I would check with the Barclays bank first before buying anything there.

It makes me rememer another fake website called "Justcanon.net". It is closed now (it simply disapeared) but they were many weeks on the web around Xmas. The Canon D5 Mark 2 was sold at the same price 1299 €... I would check with the Barclays bank first before buying anything there.

Yeah, this makes really sense. I always use an IP location tool: www.ip-adress.com

And you know what? You can determine if someone is scamming or not, thats why I like those free ip locators.

I work for a UK camera company and some of our customers have been close to buying goods off this website. If anyone has brought any goods from www.firtcameras.net contact your bank or card provider and raise a dispute as they are fraudulant traders, hopefully they should help you to get your funds back into your account. Regaring the Amazon page for the Canonn 550D i take it they have set up on a affiliate program or an Amazon store front both free and hard to trace i will try to find them and report them but you will probily find a lot more as they will try to get as much money out of it while they can.

If anyone finds any more links do you best to report them or paste the links on this page so we can get them taken down.

Actually I found them today under http://www.firstcamerasale.net/
Mattes

A week ago I bought a camera on this site was confident that a serious site. Now I see I've been scammed. Now I have given the order to the bank to stop this transfer but I doubt I can do something. Is there any chance that I can complain to the police and I can recover this money?

A week ago I bought a camera on this site was confident that a serious site. Now I see I've been scammed. Now I have given the order to the bank to stop this transfer but I doubt you can do something. Is there any chance I can complain to the police and I can recover this money?

hey!
please send to lilutta@gmail.com your story with payment details, the amount you have lost and any other details of the deal! I am collecting now the victims to make a list and submit it forwar to the local police departments all over the Europe. Those guys should be catched and punished or at least our activity could be a lesson for possible frauds and hope for victims.
Don't be passive!
looking forward to your reply!
by the way, i have already stories with over 10000 euros lost....Join us!

My friend is a victim of this scam, he lodged the money to buy the camera from the website firstcameras.net, is there a chance that the money will be back? It's so frustrating when knowing it's a scam. Hope he can get the money back coz it's more than a 1000 euros.

Hi, i'm a french man, and today i was looking for informations about the Nikon D700 on the net, when i arrived at the www.firstcameras.net homepage.
In France this camera (without lens) cost about 2000 euros, but on this website the price was only 1300 euros ! So, i really thought this very suspicious...
That's why i've looked for information about this suspect website :
And indeed, this website is NOT situated in UK, but in Russia.
So, People must be very Careful.

Pouvez-vous me contacter, cela concerne le site: First Cameras

Roland.Rusch@wanadoo.fr

Pouvez-vous me contacter, cela concerne le site: First Cameras

Roland.Rusch@wanadoo.fr

Hey,
I am collecting now the cases of the victims of FC. Please send me yours to lilutta@gmail.com
I a making a list of victims to report this fraud to any european police departments....
Looking forward to your response,
best wishes,

Salut Ronald étiez-vous demander de checker arnaque pour vous contacter ou de l'une des affiches du forum.

Désolé si l'a traduit havde i mauvaise utilisé convertisseur de langue google

Cordialement

Andrew

Salut Ronald étiez-vous demander de checker arnaque pour vous contacter ou de l'une des affiches du forum.

Désolé si l'a traduit havde i mauvaise utilisé convertisseur de langue google

Cordialement

Andrew

Hi Andrew,
Roland has contacted me about www.firstcameras.net
Indeed, this website is a scam website.
What do you recommand to close down that domain ?
With my best regards,

jean-christophe

thank goodness for scam checker and the folks that alert us to such things. i phoned this lot this morning and the lady had an east european accent and was not very helpful.. in fact vague is how i would describe her attitude.. that set off alarm bells... also their ad appeared on my gmail homepage so i fired off an email to google aswel. they are looking into it.

wow, thx guys, I was soooooo close to order a pile of equipment today. I even called them today to ask whether they accept visa card from other country and shipping address different than billing one. Of course, all answers were positive :D
Thanks to the one who raised this issue, very, very helpful.
cheers!

:( I unfortunately felt into this trap today ... I realized in the evening that it was fake and I contacted my bank, but they said they could check it and trace the money only in the morning.
and Barclays sent me "very far" by saying I am not their client and they cannot do anything relying on my phone call. :( lot of money

Mansson Preacher Sorry to hear that you have got caught up with all this but contact your bank or credit card provider and raise a disspute they should help you. Good Luck

Hello,
Even i fell into their trap Mansson.I have called up the bank and they said that they would have to wait 15 days before a dispute can be raised.Have you done it already?Could you share your views.Kindly reply.

They also scammed me.
I order a 500D and saw after it was a scam
350 euros lost;..

im gutted..

hi,
let me know about your payment details to lilutta@gmail.com
at least we will have the list of victims and anyone of us could go with this list to he local police and nobody can close then his eyes on the case with over 10000 euros paid to fraudulent online shop...

Hi- I´m german and also had a link on Amazon. I looked up their Contact Adress. On Google Streetview I saw a store located called warehouseexpress .com. I called them and they warned me not to buy anything at firstcamereas.net. It´s a dangerous fake.

I am Italian and I have found fisrtcameras on Ebay sponsor (normally Ebay is sure), I was interested to buy eos 550 d I was checking information about, regards your forum I will not buy.

I am Italian and I have found fisrtcameras on Ebay sponsor (normally Ebay is sure), I was interested to buy eos 550 d I was checking information about, regards your forum I will not buy.

I am Italian and I have found fisrtcameras on Ebay sponsor (normally Ebay is sure), I was interested to buy eos 550 d I was checking information about, regards your forum I will not buy.

I am Italian and I have found fisrtcameras on Ebay sponsor (normally Ebay is sure), I was interested to buy eos 550 d I was checking information about, regards your forum I will not buy.

I went to their website by nikonrumors.com - just fired a link that showed the price for the D700 (1306 euros). When I reloaded, this link disappeared and I could not decipher what was going on in the comments - maybe it just was not there. Thanks guys! I would have lost a lot of money ...

Found this website while I was looking for a Nikon D90 on ebay down on the page.Went to see what
they were offering and indeed their prices are unbelieveble .Just keep in mind the old saying:
If it is too good to be true,it usually is !!!

Attached reply by warehouseexpress

Dear Dino,

Thank you for your recent email. We are aware for the " first cameras site"
and are investigating but this is a fraudulent site and in no way
associated with us. I would advise not to deal with them.

Kind Regards

Daniel McMahon
Sales Agent

Tel: 01603 486413
Fax: 01603 481837
Email: dmcmahon@warehouseexpress.com

http://www.firstcameras.net/
http://www.firstcamerasale.net/

are fake... stay away from them..

advice: before buying anything from internet always check their authenticity.

i know it tempts when we have good prices on the screen, and we dont bother many things but thanks to firstcameras, i revised those lessons which i learnt already. i checked firstcameras.net, i thought these items must be without tax so i made an inquiry regarding tax/vat and also asked them about return/refund and answer was very positive then i was curious regarding the prices in UK (i m writing this from Germany), and then i had a doubt. but the bottom line is i should have checked the authenticity of them on first place.

http://www.firstcameras.net/
http://www.firstcamerasale.net/

are fake... stay away from them..

advice: before buying anything from internet always check their authenticity.

i know it tempts when we have good prices on the screen, and we dont bother many things but thanks to firstcameras, i revised those lessons which i learnt already. i checked firstcameras.net, i thought these items must be without tax so i made an inquiry regarding tax/vat and also asked them about return/refund and answer was very positive then i was curious regarding the prices in UK (i m writing this from Germany), and then i had a doubt. but the bottom line is i should have checked the authenticity of them on first place.

So glad for all these comments, Just got spooked at cheapness of D90 and checked. could of lost a lot of money.

These seems to be the same scammers of the already seen webstores:

www.digitalwaystore.com
www.shootmarket.com
www.justnikon.net
www.justcanon.net

These are some (for sure there are more) of their bank accounts in use:

Lloyds TSB
25 Gresham Street, London, EC2V 7HN, United Kingdom
Account Name: FirstCam
SWIFT/BIC: LOYDGB21514
IBAN: GB52 LOYD 3097 8516 1310 60
__________________________
Lloyds TSB
24-25 Harbour Exchange Square, London, E14 9GQ, United Kingdom
Account Name: First-Cam
SWIFT/BIC: LOYDGB21537
IBAN: GB84 LOYD 3013 5427 0512 60
____________________
Barclays Bank
27 Soho Square, London, W1D 3QR, United Kingdom
Account Name: WDF
SWIFT/BIC: BARCGB22
IBAN:GB93 BARC 2078 9823 7498 94
______________________
Barclays Bank
1 The Broadway, Stanmore, HA7 4DB, United Kingdom
Account Name: First-Cam
SWIFT/BIC: BARCGB22
IBAN: GB44 BARC 2029 3723 9815 09

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/firstcameras.net

It is from whois about owner of website.
I wrote them first long email with several requests. After few days they answered me with two sentences but not to all my question. So next mail I asked if they for sure selling new and not refurbished, used or mashines from gray market.
I got once again one sentence from them. It is why I went to research if in bacground is real company.

I also wrote to George Hatfield firstcamerasmail@yahoo.com who registred website and make responsibility of it. I never got mail back that is why I think my saving was been near 2000 €.

Andres

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/firstcameras.net

It is from whois about owner of website.
I wrote them first long email with several requests. After few days they answered me with two sentences but not to all my question. So next mail I asked if they for sure selling new and not refurbished, used or mashines from gray market.
I got once again one sentence from them. It is why I went to research if in bacground is real company.

I also wrote to George Hatfield firstcamerasmail@yahoo.com who registred website and make responsibility of it. I never got mail back that is why I think my saving was been near 2000 €.

Andres

Cheers for the info, if it's too good to be true then it probably is. Came close to losing a lot of money.

BEWARE : they also use firstslrcameras owned in Sunnyvale linking to firstcameras all same scam ; same site with other name ! ! !

Cheers for the info, if it's too good to be true then it probably is. Came close to losing a lot of money.

I also found firstcamerashop.com with same site and same magic prices

I recomennding adds here in comments all those scam sites from this company because of search mashines can find it easyer. It is only prevention for somebody else.

firstcamerasmail@yahoo.com

www.digitalwaystore.com
www.shootmarket.com
www.justnikon.net
www.justcanon.net
www.firstcameras.
www.1stcameras.com
www.salefirstcameras.net
www.firstcamerasale.net

***WRONG PLEASE READ*** Andres Zoran, hold on please and get your facts right i live local to www.1stcameras.com they Canon UK Professional Stockists, have an Printing lab and high street shop located at 6/7 Lancaster Buildings, Newcastle Under Lyme, ST5 1PG. Thier full name is 1st Cameras Imaging Centreand they are located opposite the Roebuck Shopping Centre and Royal Bank of Scotland. They are part Cornwells Chemists LTD a local company that has many Pharmacies across Staffordshire. More information can be found at

Canon UK: http://www.canon.co.uk/eospro-network/Pro_Centres_and_Stockists/Midlands...
http://www.cornwells.co.uk/
Vat Number: 87-4235-90

Please make sure you have your facts correct before you cause legal companies problems.

Uh..It is my faul and information are in last post non correct. Hope administrator can fix it because I can not edit my posts here. Thank you for that Andrew.

Hi,

please note that 1stcameras.com is a genuine site and is based in newcstle-under-lyme, staffordshire, UK.

We are not linked to the sites mentioned above and appreciate the concerns people already have when shopping online.

It seems our name has been used, and the trading details of warehouse express along with them to make several scam sites.

Our site is genuine and 1st cameras imaging centre is a trading style of Cornwells Chemist Ltd which has been around for over 75 years.

We are a genuine Canon Eos Professional Stockist and details of which can be verified at http://www.canon.co.uk/eospro-network/Pro_Centres_and_Stockists/Midlands...

Our contact number is 01782 634 580 and we are open 6 days a week - 9.00 to 5.30.

Many thanks

Leon Britton
1st Cameras Imaging Centre
www.1stcameras.com

also i found one old site called www.kvcameras.com
I just not understanding how they advertising them selfs?
If we could find the way how they do that then we could stop it asap.
Otherwise it can be forever.

I sent 2 emails with a simple sales question, no answer. I called and spoke to some chick with an Iranian or eastern European accent and she seemed pretty out of it (no company identification when phone answered) I placed the order and thought it strange that I could not pay by PayPal (I have bough from other companies online who charge a small surcharge if using PayPal or credit card) but anyway I chose credit card and was informed that they were to charge a whopping 20% which was alarming to say the least! So in the end I chose bank transfer. They sent out the banking details and I was going to have a friend in the UK do it for me. He called his bank and they told him that the sort code was missing - well thank G-d for that! The chick said that the sort code would be sent right away but nothing. I then called and had no answer - even though it was within working hours. I seemed to recal that they boasted about winning all these awards so I checked and what a surprise it was all complete bullshit. They ebven went as far as saying that they were the number 1 fasted growing company in The Finacial Times fastrack 100, go to this site and they have no listing for either First Camera or Camera Warehouse Ltd. Even though the Euro amount of what I was going to buy was low it still would have stung to be ripped off by these fuckers! Stay Away!!!!

Thank you SO much for starting this issue!
Now I will buy my lens at amazon and not firstcameras!
Thanks!

For the best prices in the UK you will find that www.1stcameras.com ( 1st cameras Imaging Centre) or WEX are the best value for your money.

I have started to notice that a lot of the URL's are now getting closed down :)

About this bastards, i spoke with them a couple of times, and it was very strange they are talking about different warranty periods. First time sea sayed 1 year, second time 2 years. DO NOT DEAL WITH THEM! FAKE! SAVE YOUR MONEY!

Hey!
Looking through the comments I can't find anybody, who has really lost his/her money...I wonder, if there is anybody, who has paid and hasn't received? I have paid...Even with 40% discount a lot...I called and talked and received e-mails and the status of my order has changed from"payment pending" into "shipment pending"...i am still waiting, already for 3 weeks and even read your messages I still hope to get my camcorder...On Monday I will let you know, if they have shipped or not....Who knows, may be I will be the first and the only cheated)
Anyway, I have also checked them in awards lists, in Canon Alliance and even ask Lloyd TSB to start the investigation of these possible frauds. I wonder, who is it possible to open a bank account with false documentation? Who stands behind them? Bank? WarehouseExpress?
Ok. C u on Monday))
By the way, these guys are everywhere in the internet - eBay, google etc. I surfed from eBay and I wrote to Kundenservice about my problems, they promiced to find out - for couple of days the advertisement was out of eBay, but then it appeared again and keep standing there...whom to believe?

http://speed-tester.info/site_location.php

Hi!
I`ve lost in this fucking fake company 645€! I was so stupid and have the store blind trust.
Now the mony is gone and the product never arrives! :(
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Barclays Bank

Bank Address:
1 Churchill Place, London, E14 5HP, United Kingdom

Account Name:
First-Cam

SWIFT/BIC:
BARCGB22

IBAN:
GB27 BARC 2073 5333 2737 76

Hi, Joke!
I have "good" news! Today is MY day! Eventually, after 2,5 weeks ,I saw in my account "order is shipped"! YES!
That's not the end of the story.... i've chosen DHL Express as delivery service, but DHL always gives the parcel number. I called to "our friends" and a girl told me, that she doesn't see any parcel number in my account regarding my order. I couldn't find it either!))) She promiced to find it out from their delivery department( would i believe it exists)))...but, anyway, i must say,that those guys are quite humanistic, they feed our hopes as long as they can...i still hope...)))
And finally I lost 590 Euro and 2,5 weeks of time...i need camcorder for my job and movie creating...but nevertheless I hold on and keep myself positive! And you, Joke, also don't worry, don't be angry, be happy! We don't ever know, where we lose and where we get...

And...today I have also applied to FBI Cyber Crime Department for investigation...I am intending to write also to UK Police department or to any other authority not to leave those frauds go on...

Joke, when did this happen to you? Have you tried to get in contact with Barclays Bank? I have, my money is gone to Lloyds TSB and I wrote to them about my case and they also promiced to investigate, whom belongs the account and whether everything was done properly by opening an account. I think, that bank is also responsible for such crimes...

take care!
best wishes! and don't loose your faith in truth and people....))))

I call the Sunday Times becaus I chek in their Fastrack 100 section on the net and like other person sayd this First Camera or Camera Warehouse isnot the number 1 fastes growing compiny in UK and even I didn't waste time to check the other award they say they win I dout they are real ether. If enoug people contact the Sunday Times they have to take action, no?

I think, Fred, you are right. If we want to stop them, we need to do smth, anything, everything we can. I have just finished my report about this fraud on the webpage - http://www.actionfraud.org.uk/
you can also do that. it doesn't take much time, but it may prevent other people to be cheated.

I've also suspected about prices and simple appearance of site. Also contacted First Track in order to ask them if their claims are true.

Glad to have stopped by this site before making a purchase decision. As they say in economics.... there are no free lunches.

So I have my bank and Barclays
Bank informed. I need to say that I am from Germany.
The Barclays Bank I have contacted via email. An answer I have not got.
Why act quickly? It's all just about the money from others!
That today is still possible at all anonymous bank accounts to open is ridiculous.
And I have contacted www.naiin.org.
Bye and greetings from Germany.
P.S. Excuse my bad english

I have reported about these frauds to FBI and UK Police, also I am going to inform Interpol about them. As for bank-Lloyds TSB, I got in contact with them not in a way of just informing, but in a way of pretension, that they don't check their clients properly and they are in this case collaterals. In my report to FBI I have given all details of other bank accounts, so probably Barclay Bank will also be checked.
JokeR_XP when did this happen to you? how long have you been waiting?

JokeR_XR, if you feel yourself as a victim of those frauds, then could you push the button"victim of this company?" - at the beginning of this page? I intend to do the same as soon as my delivery time-7 days is over, it is then 14th of March. So, that we could report not only our suspections, but people could see the real victims.

I have the order on 22 February made. I have paid on 23 February.
And the state is now: Shipment Pending.
Yes I have informed the bank but I did not get a response!
You should not wait any longer! The goods will not come!

Hi everybody, I ordered a camera at 19th Feb and transfered money to their bank account. So far no shipment, status is still "payment pending". After all I read here, I have to admit: I read it too late. Now I am interested in any action I can do and information I can get, to either get my money back and/ or treat these guys as badly as possible.
How can I contact their bank Lloyds?

Hi everybody, one more is joining the club. I transfered the money on 25th Feb, 414,0 E. for a C550D kit. Same result as many of you: payment still pending, no answars to the telephon number indicated, address corresponding to another firm which claims not to be involved with first camera.net.
I have realized to late as well to deal with an internet fraud. I have contacted the bank LloydsTSB to inform and worn them about. From Italy I can't do much more, being not english mother language and not knowing England investigation system. If somebody of you can make pressure on the fraud used bank as well I gess it can help along with reporting to UK police or whatsoever anti-fraud organization. I will stay in contact to signal or receive any update useful to recover the money back.
regards.
This is the bank address and tel.: Lloyds TSB - 25 Gresham Street, London
Postcode - EC2V 7HN
Telephone - 0845 30 00 00 0

Today they are on internet with the adress wwwfirstcams.net Everyday they are changing their adress.

Hey chaps, another one trapped...I should have looked here before I´ve sent the money to them...
But I still believe that the goods will arrive! Today the order status changed from "shipment pending" to "order shipped" which means that after 13 days from sending the money to the UK according their payment information the goods should be finally on their way to the Czech Republic...

We willl see if it arrives or not... I hope it will!

Take care

Another one that arrived too soon at the fraudulent party. I purchased a Video camera on the 18/2 and paid by visa card. After a week I sent 2 emails and called to no avail and replies. Yesterday I got a reply asking how the payment was done????? Cant they see on the system and purchase record .... !!!!!!
My query is this. Do you think they will still debit my credit card account (hasnt been done yet) ??? and how can I prevent it from the purchase amount being withdrawn by them?
Replies will be much appreciated

Joecruise, urgently get in contact with your bank! you should inform them about the danger of fraudulent usage of your credit card data! Bank should probably close your credit card or protect it somehow else!
Don't wait!
I have paid by Bank Transfer. I can't return my money-my bank said. I can only apply for refund, but nobody can garantee that. It depends, that's the point to smile))), on the beneficiary=frauds, if they will agree to return money to my account, then Lloyds TSB will do that...isn't it nice!)))
My order is in status "shipped" and as a person from Chech Republic, I am still waiting for my camcorder...Will see...

as I have reported about these scammers to the International Cyber Crime dept of FBI, I will update my report today with new messages of their victims, posted here...So, that the Service wouldn't pushed it far away...
All of you could do that - report the Service, then we would have much more "weight"!http://www.ic3.gov/contact/default.aspx

http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

I have an idea...everyone, who feels, that was cheated by Firstcameras.net, please send your stories to my e-mail - lilutta@gmail.com And eventually I will make those stories published in UK newpapers. You know, I am sure, that Banks should be responsible for such cases and Banks must refund us money, that we lost by their fault, because they were not careful enough by opening accounts on false companies and persons...
We should not be quite! Lets talk about that not only in the web, but also in the public media resources!
Looking forward to your messages, those who have paid already....
It is not about money, but about the clear human atmosphere....I believe it is still possible...

Pls lilu, what did Lloyd TSB tell you about the fact a internet cheater is using a its bank account to fraud people on the net? Does anybody contacted the bank? When I did, they thanked to me for the warning, they said to activate an ivestigation on that, but I could not obtain more than this nor
an e-mail address to better pass information....prety frustrating..

http://www.norwich.gov.uk/
here is Norwich City Council...I wrote them a message about Norwich registered fraudulent company and asked them to check it, or to inform the local Police dept to do that...will see...

Hey, omorstup!
I tried to call them first,but as I call from skype, I couldn't reach them, as I had to push proper buttons in order to contact with proper dept))) thenI sent the first e-mail - no reply, the second e-mail no reply, eventually i had to threat them, that i am going to report the Police and they answered me, that my case is redirected to their internal business dept and all the details of my story will be carefully checked and that i should inform my bank and the Police about this fraud etc. Another words, they are going to investigate themselves and are not obliged to inform me about te results of their internal investigation...truly, i think, that bank is somehow involved...The only thing Banks are affraid of is public investigation, the only way to do that - publish all the story in newspaper.
Can anybody tell me the most powerful newspapers or magazines in UK?

don't you think it is strange, that the real comapny - Warehouse Express, also registered on the same address and selling the same goods, the only thing could say or do - " it is not us...not us..."
but at the same time did nothing to cancel the advertisement of frauds everywhere in the internet...they are loosing clients and income, if someone registered in the same place sells same goods for lower prices....
conclusion- everybody involved in this case do the same thing - they delay the solution of the problem...they "investigate"...and time works on them...
the goods are the same, the address is the same - Warhouse Express ows us goods or money!
it is clear for me, that there is smth more global than just simple online fraud. Look at the advertisement, which is not for free by the way, posted on every webpage connected with photo or video!!!
P.S. if someday you will not see my posts any more, then I died for the truth )))

With regards to the pay per click advertising i tink they could have got hold of Google Adwords Voucher they send them out looking for new customers i got a £75 voucher the other day, you need to connect an account but i just take it they are using the same account that they are taking everyones money.

With regards to Warehouse Express LTD they are nothing to do with the fraudsters they contacted my company and everyone has been trying to get rid of these Bast***s

Hi,
Even i fell for the fraud mate :(.
I made the payment two business days ago.Is there a chance I can stop it?
I called up the Llyods bank and they say I have to give 15 days to the firm to deliver the goods failing to which I can raise a case for fraudlent dispute.They said in that case it is possible for a refund.
Is it true?Have you tried something about it?

My suggestion is to get in touch with the Sunday Times as this shady company claim they were number 1 in the coveted Sunday Times Fast Track 100 and that is clearly not the case. Even if they wrote a small piece on the topic it would probably be read by millions of people. That's great for the people who have not bought but for the people who have it seems that the banks have a responsibility to protect you and your hard earned money. It seems amazing to me that a bank could even open an account for what is clearly a fraudulent enterprise. It always hurts to lose money but I wouldn't think of this as lost just yet, more that you all need to work hard to earn it back again. You shouldn't give up, that's what they hope you'll do, which sadly is the case alot of the time, with many not coming forward at all for the shame and humiliation of being cheated. If you bark & scream loud enough someone's going to pay attention. There has to be some protection with those of you that bought with credit card (how under-handed of them to charge 20% for using a credit card, it's calculated to make you decide on the transfer option which has no surcharge but will probably prove more difficult to get the funds back). I just saw on Sky news that the president of Lloyd's or Barclays was awarded a 6 million pound bonus for 2010! Fucking banks! Don't they just make you sick?

Hi everybody,
I send the money to this bank: Lloyds TSB
Bank Address:
27-31 Westgate, Peterborough, PE11YH, United Kingdom
Account: FirstCam
SWIFT/BIC: LOYDGB21E95
IBAN: GB37 LOYD 7772 1645 0298 63

Is it possible in the UK to open a bank account without any identity card? In Germany it's not. So, if there is somebody opening the bank accounts, it must be possible for the police to find and prosecute him.

I am willing to provide my "deal details" in order to increase the pressure on the bank and to inform the mass media about this fraud.
I pressed charges against firstcameras in Germany and asked my German bank to get my money back (altough they were not very optimistic...)

No you need ID and it can be hard to get bank accounts so i woulo love to know how they got a UK bank account.

Hi,
look at this Lloyds website:

https://secure.currentaccounts.lloydstsb.com/ltsbaccountopening/Wizard.a...

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems you can open a bank account on Lloyds TSB via the web, without having to go to the bank and present your ID. If this is true, that explains everything ...

Hi Bro,
Anything happening.I made the payment on Friday.Is there a possibility I can stop the payment?
I should have read all these threads earlier, only to my dismay.Have you been able to make some breakthrough?I called up Llyods and they said that you have to give the firm a headsup for 15 days to deliver your product,failing to which you can raise a fraudlent dispute and in that case they can help.

Have you spoken to them?

Does anyone know how they advertising?

Does anyone know how they advertising?

Does anyone know they advertising?

Bizzzzy said: My suggestion is to get in touch with the Sunday Times as this shady company claim they were number 1 in the coveted Sunday Times Fast Track 100 and that is clearly not the case. Even if they wrote a small piece on the topic it would probably be read by millions of people......

I totally agree with him. Who does know how to do it?

I have got a message today to lilutta@gmail.com with the story from Spain, a man was cheated by www.justnikon.net. As I can see from posts below, they are probably all the one - justnikon, justcanon, firstcameras etc.
To publish our stories seem to be the only way to make Police and Banks feel their responsibility. My suggestion was to collect our stories and then send them all to the Times or Guardian. Then we would have "weight" of pressure....Or we can do it individually...
First, I think, we should just contact the publishing house and suggest the item of the article and lead their attention to the passive reaction of the authorities...
By the way, I wrote an alert message- report fraud-to the city Council of Norwich....nothing...

to matthew - an interesting question - they should pay for advertisement, at least on Ebay.de they stand in the "Gesponserte Ergebnisse"...nice isn't it? frauds are spending our money for advertisement or...may be there are no frauds...or there might be someone else interested in them...I think it is a good idea for independant journalist investigation... http://www.guardian.co.uk/
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/

They all need to be locked up!

letters@guardian.co.uk
this is the e-mail of Guardian editor. I have already sent my story to them with link of this forum attached.
It is time for everyone to write there!!! Do smth!!!
Good luck!

Hi everyone. I have an answer today received from Barclays.

Thank you for your email dated 7/3/11.

May we take this opportunity to apologise for the inconvenience and trouble that this has caused you.

We would ask you to please report this matter to your local police and bank who will be able to advise you on the appropriate action.

We have passed this on to the relevant team for further investigation and they will take the necessary action if this is required.

Yours sincerely,

Michelle O'Dowd
Barclays Bank PLC

...blablabla! What a reaction! I think that nothing happens.
They have not even the Bank account verified or frozen.
Doing nothing is the reason why scammers are so successful!
On Monday I got myself a C550D orders for around 820 €. Yesterday the
already arrived. "Thank God," ^ ^
With the 645 € are gone and the 820 € = C EOS 7D. No matter.
Maybe even a miracle happened and all get their money back. ^ ^

Hey Joke,
You got your money back?Can you tell me the procedure please?I want to file a case and do the same.

Dear all,
I talked to Lloyds TSB today. Their reaction was: we are not allowed to answer any question, we cann't do anything, go to the police etc.
Well I talked again with the German authorities. Obviously the Nikon case was well known. Unfortunately they told me, that a damage of less than 5,000 € will most probably not be prosecuted, since the authorities in the UK are not willing to follow these - that' a shame!
My idea now is to bundle injured persons (in Germany, because I am located in Germany). So please readers: if you were injured and are located in Germany, please give me a sign. We can then combine and try to get "more weight" to move the authorities.

What about getting all the cases together and approching a solicitor with all the cases on a no win no fee basis. I bet that this case could hundreds of thousands maybe even over a million. in the uk claims under 5000 can be prosicuted by the police but most of the time they expect you to take them to the small claims courts but the big problem is that you need someone to have a case against!

If i would have lost money i would have got the cases together and what about aproching the Sun Newspaper http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/article296174.ece
The Mirror, News of the world etc.

Good luck everyone

Dear all, I am located in Germany as well and would consider to support a joint approach. Our case is around lost €800,-. Please contact me. Thanks and regards

Hallo
ich habe mich auch reinlegen lassen, 805,00 Euro für eine Canon 7D kann ich wohl abschreiben. Meine Überweisung ging an die National Westminster Bank, 204 high Street Walthamstow, E17 7JH, UK. Eine Sammelklage würde ich unterstützen, ob wir das Geld aber jemals wiedersehen bleibt wohl fraglich.

Hallo,
ich habe, so wie Sie, am 7.3.11 eine Canon D7 bei dieser Firma (mit der so überzeugenden Webpage!) bestellt und auch am selben Tag an dieselbe Bank wie Sie überwiesen. Nach einer Woche hieß es "packing pending" dann" dispatch pending" dann" shipment pending" .Ich bekam auf mein Drängen auf Lieferung insgesamt 3 e-mails die mich nur kurz auf mein account (ich möge dort nachschauen) verwiesen. Wahrscheinlich ist das Geld weg zumal die Homepage heute nicht mehr aufrufbar war und auf Telefonanrufe niemand antwortete. Wahrscheinlich ist nur eine Sammelklage sinnvoll. Falls Sie nähere Informationen haben würde ich Sie bitten sich mit mir in Verbindung zu setzen.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Volker Lichem (Österreich)

Hallo,
ich bin auch so einer. 1400 Euro futsch, ist mir gestern Abend klar geworden. Ich hab heute Anzeige erstattet bei der Polizei bei mir in Berlin. Bis in zwei Wochen wollen sie sich gemeldet haben. Ich finde deine Idee großartig. Lass uns schreiben oder telefonieren, wenn du sammelst, geb ich dir meine Geschichte und Daten mit.
Florian
florian-fischer-web@web.de
01577/5169242

Hallo,
ich bin auch auf diese "tolle Seite" reingefallen, habe vor ca. zwei Wochen bestellt und überwiesen (leider). Paar Tage später stellte ich fest, dass die Seite nicht mehr existiert. Ich habe bis jetzt noch keine Anzeige gemacht, da ich auch denke, dass (wenn überhaupt) nur eine Sammelklage sinnvoll ist. Meine Zahlung ging an die National Westminster Bank, 309 High Street, West Bromwich, B70 8LX, UK. Vielleicht gibt es ja noch Wunder ..

Hallo,
ich bin auch auf diese "tolle Seite" reingefallen, habe vor ca. zwei Wochen bestellt und überwiesen (leider). Paar Tage später stellte ich fest, dass die Seite nicht mehr existiert. Ich habe bis jetzt noch keine Anzeige gemacht, da ich auch denke, dass (wenn überhaupt) nur eine Sammelklage sinnvoll ist. Meine Zahlung ging an die National Westminster Bank, 309 High Street, West Bromwich, B70 8LX, UK. Vielleicht gibt es ja noch Wunder ..

Hallo,
ich bin auch auf diese "tolle Seite" reingefallen, habe vor ca. zwei Wochen bestellt und überwiesen (leider). Paar Tage später stellte ich fest, dass die Seite nicht mehr existiert. Ich habe bis jetzt noch keine Anzeige gemacht, da ich auch denke, dass (wenn überhaupt) nur eine Sammelklage sinnvoll ist. Meine Zahlung ging an die National Westminster Bank, 309 High Street, West Bromwich, B70 8LX, UK. Vielleicht gibt es ja noch Wunder ..

Ich bin aus Deutschland aber ich habe an die Barclays Bank gezahlt.
Das ist doch echt mal nen Witz das man heutzutage so einfach Leute
abzocken kann und niemand wirklich niemand fühlt sich verantwortlich.
Sogar die Sponsor-Links sind immer noch aktiv obwohl ich Amazone, eBay,
Google und Co. über die Abzocke informiert habe. Das einzigste das ich nicht
gemacht habe ist die Polizei vor Ort informiert.
Vielleicht sollten alle Geschädigten sich zusammentun und auch Verbraucher abzocken.
Es kann ja nix passieren! Wie es funktioniert wissen wir ja jetzt. ;)

Hello fellow sufferers, even I found this site with the good opportunities through a link on Amazon and Ebay. Without delving I ordered two cameras from Canon and 2 lenses from Tamron. 1260.-€. My Order Status has Since the order on 26/02/2011 changed several times and now stands at Shipment Pending. Has anyone yet received their goods, or we are all losers? I'm waiting now to Friday and then be reimbursed indication for fraud.

I spoke to an English friend of mine who has had businesses in the UK and what he told me was very alarming. It seems that for about 2,000 pounds a company can be bought 'off the shelf' and start trading right away. This company number is all the bank needs to open up an account. Therefore, they make it very easy for fraudsters like First Camera to exixt and to rip people off. From what I've read of peoples experiences in this thread the banks don't care and will continue to allow them to take money and give nothing in return.

Dear All,

On 12.02.2011 I've ordered from firstcameras.net a camera and a set of lences to be delivered to Denmark. I've paid by banking transfer and the rest of the story is the same: "order pending", "payment pending", "processing", "being packed", "shipment pending", "order shipped" and nothing at the end. All my attempts to get in touch appeared to be resultless. Reading this forum I'm realizing that I'm now in a deep shit.
Please advice what should I do: go to my local Danish bank? Go to local police? Contact UK police? Contact interpol?
I think the only chance for all of us is to gather in a team, strike our total balance of loss because of this fraud and try to make collective claim to UK police, interpol and especially Barklays bank. Shold we?

Reading this forum I'm understanding that I'm in deep shit with my banking transfer to firstcameras.net Barklays banking account. I've ordered a camera and a set of lences on 12.02.2011 (almost 1 month ago) and still have been waiting like naive up to now.
Whom should I report? My local Danish bank? Local Danish police? UK police? Interpol?
I think the only chance for us is to get our money from Barklays. Should we join our efforts to make a collective claim to UK police, UK press, interpol, Barklays?

Reading this forum I'm understanding that I'm in deep shit with my banking transfer to firstcameras.net Barklays banking account. I've ordered a camera and a set of lences on 12.02.2011 (almost 1 month ago) and still have been waiting like naive up to now.
Whom should I report? My local Danish bank? Local Danish police? UK police? Interpol?
I think the only chance for us is to get our money from Barklays. Should we join our efforts to make a collective claim to UK police, UK press, interpol, Barklays?

Reading this forum I'm understanding that I'm in deep shit with my banking transfer to firstcameras.net Barklays banking account. I've ordered a camera and a set of lences on 12.02.2011 (almost 1 month ago) and still have been waiting like naive up to now.
Whom should I report? My local Danish bank? Local Danish police? UK police? Interpol?
I think the only chance for us is to get our money from Barklays. Should we join our efforts to make a collective claim to UK police, UK press, interpol, Barklays?

Reading this forum I'm understanding that I'm in deep shit with my banking transfer to firstcameras.net Barklays banking account. I've ordered a camera and a set of lences on 12.02.2011 (almost 1 month ago) and still have been waiting like naive up to now.
Whom should I report? My local Danish bank? Local Danish police? UK police? Interpol?
I think the only chance for us is to get our money from Barklays. Should we join our efforts to make a collective claim to UK police, UK press, interpol, Barklays?

Reading this forum I'm understanding that I'm in deep shit with my banking transfer to firstcameras.net Barklays banking account. I've ordered a camera and a set of lences on 12.02.2011 (almost 1 month ago) and still have been waiting like naive up to now.
Whom should I report? My local Danish bank? Local Danish police? UK police? Interpol?
I think the only chance for us is to get our money from Barklays. Should we join our efforts to make a collective claim to UK police, UK press, interpol, Barklays?

I wish this could be a message of hope and action for many. Sorry for my English, I'm italian and I was another trapped (€ 1299!). Thank you very much for signaling the fraud. I consequently informed (fax with all my references) yesterday my bank, the Office for Fair Trade, local Police and local bank to which I transferred my money (on 11th february) about the fraud, giving details and explication of entire correspondence with firstcameras, including the fact they didn't answer when I was asking DHL tracking number, because I didn't received merchandise, and the fact their VAT number is not active (you could check it on various UE sites). Local Police and Bank acted very swiftly and today I received a fax informing me that my money wasn't retired! (luckily it appears to be only my money on that account, otherwise things probably would be different...), so the account was blocked and my money will be returned. I hope many of you could have such results, so you have to try, may be you're in time: hurry!
Normally I googled in Internet if problems were reported with a company, but this time I was caught because it seems on 11th february I was among the first to buy and I discovered nothing. For the future I realized it will be absolutely wise to control the website ip location, the VAT existence (for EU countries) and if there are a consistent reports not only of negative feedback, but also any positive (possibly not false). And, last, but not least, prefer to pay with Paypal (also if, in this case, I have nothing to complain with LTSB Bank acting, at the contrary!). Good luck to all and eyes open for the future!

I wish this could be a message of hope and action for many. Sorry for my English, I'm italian and I was another trapped (€ 1299!). Thank you very much for signaling the fraud. I consequently informed (fax with all my references) yesterday my bank, the Office for Fair Trade, local Police and local bank to which I transferred my money (on 11th february) about the fraud, giving details and explication of entire correspondence with firstcameras, including the fact they didn't answer when I was asking DHL tracking number, because I didn't received merchandise, and the fact their VAT number is not active (you could check it on various UE sites). Local Police and Bank acted very swiftly and today I received a fax informing me that luckily my money wasn't retired (luckily it appears to be only my money on that account, otherwise...), so the account was blocked and my money will be returned. I hope all of you to have such good results, may be you're in time: hurry!
Normally I googled in Internet if problems were reported with a company, but this time I was caught because it seems on 11th february I was among the first to buy and I discovered nothing. For the future it will be absolutely wise to check the website ip location, the VAT existence (for EU countries), if there are a consistent reports not only of negative feedbacks, but also positive (possibly not false). And, last, but not least, to pay with Paypal (also if, in this case, I have nothing to complain with LTSB Bank acting, at the contrary!). Good luck to all and eyes open!

sono italiano anche io ed ho fatto un bonifico di quasi 600€, ho sentito i carabinieri e mi hanno detto di contattare altri che hanno lo stesso problema, ho scritto anche sull'altro post http://www.scamchecker.com/report/first-cameras-firstcameras.net-webpage...
se è necessario posso scrivere anche in inglese e tedesco, la mia mail è federico@cafed.com

Dear All,
I'm realizing that I'm in a deep shit with firstcameras.net as I sent them money by banking transfer to their account in Barclays Bank. Is there any sence to report my local Danish police?
I think we all have to go 2 parallel ways: apply to local UK police/other authorities and claim the Barclays Bank. Whatever we choose we should do it as a group of people which were cheated. Who cares about one person but if we gather in a group it will get a much higher social resonance worth printing in Guardian, Sunday Times, showing on BBC, etc. And yes Barclays Bank should have its part of responsibility for the situation.

Dear All,
I'm realizing that I'm in a deep shit with firstcameras.net as I sent them money by banking transfer to their account in Barclays Bank. Is there any sence to report my local Danish police?
I think we all have to go 2 parallel ways: apply to local UK police/other authorities and claim the Barclays Bank. Whatever we choose we should do it as a group of people which were cheated. Who cares about one person but if we gather in a group it will get a much higher social resonance worth printing in Guardian, Sunday Times, showing on BBC, etc. And yes Barclays Bank should have its part of responsibility for the situation.

Does anyone from here working for Google? Or maybe you know who is working for Google?
I know one way how to find them

hey! give me some time to find the one. I nk ow the person, who's acquintance is working for Google...

BARCLAY'S BANK AND LLOYD'S TSB COLLABORATE WITH RUSSIAN SWINDLERS

That must be the headline of the article. No matter if it is conscious or not – it is obvious their neglect makes it possible the cheating to continue. The least they had been obligated to do was to WARN every client wanting to transfer money to these accounts after the very first report.

BARCLAY'S BANK AND LLOYD'S TSB COLLABORATE WITH RUSSIAN SWINDLERS

That must be the headline of the article. No matter if it is conscious or not – it is obvious their neglect makes it possible the cheating to continue. The least they had been obligated to do was to WARN every client wanting to transfer money to these accounts after the very first report.

I think that everyone here that has been ripped off should maake a legal case against the banks as they should be protecting us from these people not helping them!

hey, everyone!

last week I sent my story to Guardian, still no response, inspite of my notice, that I have more stories like mine...silence...I absolutely agree with an idea of gathering together, victims of firstcameras, and publishing our stories as a protest againts the dirty work of banks.
by the way, as a joke, i made one more order from firstcameras and they sent me the payment details today - look at them - there is one more bank
Beneficiary Bank:
Halifax Bank

Bank Address:
469 Kingsbury Road, London, NW9 9ES, United Kingdom

Account Name:
First-Cam

SWIFT/BIC:
HLFXGB21M31

IBAN:
GB06 HLFX 1111 3100 5292 74

Order Total:
€589.95

Payment Reference:
747210

Hi folks,
I even ot an email.

Dear Sir or Madam,

Please allow 2-3 working days for the payment to reach our account.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact us.

Sincerely,

Brett Keller

First Cameras
Camera Warehouse Ltd
13 Frensham Road
Norwich, NR3 2BT
United Kingdom
Company No. 06523440

bank
First Cameras
------------------------------------------------------
Order Number: 747207
Detailed Invoice: https://www.firstcameras.net/account_history_info.php?order_id=747207
Date Ordered: Saturday 12 March, 2011

Products
------------------------------------------------------
1 x Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM (EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM) = €559.95
1 x Canon EOS 60D Digital SLR Body Only (EOS 60D Digital SLR Body Only) = €579.95
1 x SanDisk Extreme 32GB SDHC Card - Class 10 (Extreme 32GB SDHC Card - Class 10) = €69.95
1 x Sunpak 77mm UV Filter (Black) (77mm UV Filter (Black)) = €25.95
1 x Canon Remote Switch RS-80 N3 (Remote Switch RS-80 N3) = €25.95
------------------------------------------------------
Sub-Total: €1,261.75
DHL Express (DHL Express ): €0.00
Total: €1,261.75

Tried to warn local subsidiary of Halifax bank, they forwarded me to their HQ..

Since today server doesnt respond any more.

thank all. saved my skin

Hi everybody,
i spend more than 2000 € on firstcameras...
At a certain point i was stupid enough to trust these offers.... (I'm so stupid...Grrrrr!!!!!) but i'm really shocked that it's so easy to rip off people... I agree that it might be the best to link up together to fight back.
I'm from Germany as well - if there are any good ideas how to stop this rip off - let me know!
Am I right that i should work on forgetting about the money and turn it over to a learnig about doing proper Homework before sending money to some obscure Bank???
Good night everybody,
Check the risk

Hi! I was also cheated and I have fogotten about my 600 euros. As for you, your lost is much bigger, you should try to return it. below there is a message from one italian, who has paid over 2000 euros as well on the 11th of February and he has got his money back - he sent a fax to his bank, to Police and to the beneficiary bank with payment details and with his e-mails to firstcameras attached. He has paid by credit card and the money was returned.
Good luck!

Hallo,
ich bin auch so einer. 1400 Euro, habs gestern Abend rausgefunden(dass ich verarscht bin). War heute bei der Polizei und hab Anzeige erstattet, die wollen sich in 1 bis 2 Wochen melden. Es haben wohl schon mehr Leute in Deutschland Anzeige gegen "First Cameras" erstattet, aber du weißt ja, wie das bei lauter Einzel-Klagen aussehen kann. Besser, wir sprechen zusammen mit dem Sachbearbeiter, erst die Deutschen, dann alle mit der nächsthöheren Instanz. Einer muss halt alle Geschädigten sammeln. Wäre froh, wenns jemand anderes macht, da kaum Zeit, weil Schauspielstudent, aber im Notfall mach ichs. florian-fischer-web@web.de

Barclays Bank
IBAN GB36BARC20728963897915
BIC BARCGB22
2333,50€
Sad but true!
STAY AWAY from FirstCameras.net

We must not give up. we must find and destroy these Russian criminals by all means.

Dear all, These are my activities and results so far:
I pressed charges against firstcameras in Germany. They gave me no hope because the harm is too small. They advised to go the local police in UK, although typically UK authorities don't do anything if not at least millions Euro are lost! I contacted them anyhow and the Police in UK told me to contact the police in Germany...
I wrote and phoned with the bank in uk, they do not give any information or help. My German bank at least promised to try to get the money back. No result so far.
I also informed companys like https://reportfraud.actionfraud.org.uk/fraudreport/ to inform about the fraud.
And i ordered and got a new camera...
Has anybody got either his ordered goods or the transferred money back?

Hi,

I also ordered Firstcameras.net and still no goods.
I've seen that you come from Germany. How would it be to get together and together go to the German police.
Sorryy for my English (by Google - Translator)

Greetings Senhorita

Hi,

I also ordered Firstcameras.net and still no goods.
I've seen that you come from Germany. How would it be to get together and together go to the German police.
Sorryy for my English (by Google - Translator)

Greetings Senhorita

Les escribo desde España con la esperanza de que alguien en España me pueda aconsejar si ha sido engañado por www.firstcameras.net Este sitio es definitivamente un engaño. He comprado en 3 de MArzo una camera por este sistema haciendo la tranferencia correspondiente (1185e) y ahora estoy tratando de recuperar este dinero de una manera u otra. Denunciando el caso a la policía (sin respuestas) pidiendo a mi banco de parar la tranferencia (parece que es tarde ya...) Asi que si alguien me puede ayudar...

No te puedo ayudar mucho pero si decirte que yo también hice la compra y justo cuando hice la transferencia me percaté del fraude. Por suerte, en el banco consiguieron devolverme la transferencia (en mi caso 1071€) aunque con un coste de comisión de 25€ (se pagan besados con tal de conseguir que me devolvieran la transferencia). Aparte de eso, y viendo que no he sido la única, he denunciado el caso a la policía, tienen todos los emails y los datos de la tranferencia, pero nada más, no se han vuelto a poner en contacto conmigo. En cuanto al pedido (yo lo hice a mediados de febrero), me seguía apareciendo como que me lo enviaban y tal, pero hoy ya he visto que pone "devuelto"; supongo que ya se han dado cuenta de que no tienen mi ingreso. En fin, ojalá en el banco consigas que te lo devuelvan y sólo nos queda esperar que la policía haga algo con esta gentuza. Suerte!

Yo estoy en las mismas. Mañana denuncio a la policía. ¿Has conseguido algo por parte del banco?

Yo estoy en las mismas. Mañana denuncio a la policía. ¿Has conseguido algo por parte del banco?

hey again!
as for me, as soon as got they are frauds, i contacted with my estonian bank and they told me, there is no way to get your money back(600 euros), only if the beneficiar will agree with refund. so, if you pay with International Bank Transfer, it is hopeless to get your money back.
I have sent my story with shortcut of another stories to Guardian, The Times, The Sun - still silence...
I have reported to Action Fraud - UK Sservice and ICC3 - FBI Cyber Crime report service...nothing...
The same is with Lloyds TSB...

I order a CANON EOS 60D on the 20/02/2011 for 579 Euros payed by bank transfert.
My order is in state 'Shipped' from the 08/03/2011 and not received. I reclaim the Track number , but the answer whas ' We call back soon' !!!
I more in the club .

Dear all,
Has anyone here received any products or are still waiting?
Please, denounce this on "Internet Crime Complaint Center"
http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

I received nothing.
I denounce on "Internet Crime Complaint Center"

The callcenter is located in New Haven, CT, US;
The IP from "firstcameras.net" is in Russia;
The IP from "myfirstcamera.net" (the same site with another IP) is in Sunnyvale, EUA;
The awards they say they have does even exist.

You can also report it to the Federal Trade Commission on their toll-free hotline, (877) FTC-HELP (877-382-4357),

Yesterday I called to the call center of FirstCameras. A girl iced up the phone and when I told her my order number, she assured me, that my order will be delivered these days any time, so wait and you will get it!
I was wondering, why nobody can get them by phone, but I do? Because I call from skype and they can not see my phone number to identify and as they keep collecting our money, they answer phone calls to cheat new clients. Try to call with Skype!

I am giving all of you the contact email of Marketing manager of legal company Warehouse Express, the address of which is used my frauds. This information was kindly provided by Luis from Spain.

Bryan Marshall
Online Marketing Manager

bmarshall@warehouseexpress.com
Tel: +44 (0) 777 544 8458

hey
i'm Another 'victim' ...Does anybody has positive feedback at all??!!
look @ these two sites:

http://www.laylandelectronic.net/about-us

https://www.laylandelectronic.com/index.php?route=information/contact

Weird!!

Whois results :
Registration Service Provided By: UAB BARTUS PRO
Contact: +370.60109109
Website: http://www.domenai.lt

Domain Name: LAYLANDELECTRONIC.NET

Registrant :
Alfredas Kazickas (darbas2000@hotmail.com)
Laisves pr 57 - 4
Vilnius
null,06112
LT
Tel. +370.37060384477

Not far from Russia and same prices and probably same "familly" :-((

Dear All,

There were some technical problems and I couldn't see my comments so I repeated them several times. So excuse my repeating those messages.
So is there any chance for all of us to join our efforts and the claim amount(!) in a legally strong way not to give any authority/bank in UK to ignore our claims because of their "insignificant amount". Maybe we should find some reputable lawyer company in UK which can represent our collective interests and file a law siut against Barclays bank and claims to other authorities which are doing nothing to protect our interests as customers? We can agree that we pay their service only in case if they win in the court and we get our money back...

ScamChecker on facebook. Like and denounce.

Don't know What to think? --->

http://www.resellerratings.com/forum/merchant-discussion-shopping-advice...

http://fotoshootingnews.blogspot.com/2011/01/justcanonnet-e-affini-occhi...

http://kriskoster.com/2010/12/justcanon-net-is-another-scam-fake-photo-s...

http://www.image-nature.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=17307

http://forum.belgiumdigital.com/f9/canon-5dmk-ii-1519-of-2200-met-24-105...

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1018&message=377400...

etc etc...

www.digitalwaystore.com
www.shootmarket.com
www.justnikon.net
www.justcanon.net
www.firstcameras.
www.firstslrcameras
www.salefirstcameras.net
www.firstcamerasale.net
www.laylandelectronic.net/about-us

etc etc...

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I think that this "company" is a fake. I paid by International Bank Transfer - instead of using VISA (plus 20 %! - That is a sign to alert you!). Since that date I see only "Pending ..., ready for dispatch, Pending shipment,..: Writing an email to firstcamera.net, I´ve got two answers signed by "Emmit Lowery"??

Hallo,
I#m from Germany too and I've paid 805 Euro for a Canon EOS 7D on March 10. They give you the hope that something is going on: payment pending, proseesing, ready for dispatch.... but I'm still waiting without any hope to get my camera or the money back. The website was too good and that makes it so important to stop them before others will pay for nothing.

I've forgotten to write that I've paid to
National Westminster Bank, 204 High Street, Walthamstow, E17 7JH UK.
Since this morning I'm not able to open firstcameras.net to see my account.

Hello All,

so, since today I can no longer access their own account!
Now these scammers a bank that is still more. Seems too obvious, if all victims want money from Barclays bank.

Scam advertising on Scamcheker . . . . SOOO funny

Is there anyone from Austria how ordered at firstcameras and did not get a product or his/her money back. I'm one of those and want to know how to stop these bustards.
I also did pay by bank transfer and Barclay bank seems to be the evil companion of firstcameras.

Is there anybody who got what he ordered?
Or anybody who got back his money?
nice regards
Chris

I have also been scammed & I don't fool easily however I have parted with €540 & feel such an idiot. Like others I have tried to access the site today but it is shut down. I wonder how much money these bastards have taken in total before they called it a day. Serious questions need to be asked of the banks who facilitated these criminals. Emmit Lowery I salute you & the toe rags you work with you have taken us all to the cleaners. Beware all in future I'm sure you all feel as badly as I do at the way we have been ripped of & taken advantage of. Unfortunately we have all had to learn a hard lesson "IF IT SEEM TO GOOD TO BE TRUE IT PROBABLY IS" & I am sure this time next week they will be operating under a different name & taking the hard earned money of more poor souls.

They disappeared, there is no access to anything. Please proceed with the criminal complaints.

Quel est le motif du dépôt de plainte au pénal en France ?

Hey, guys!
Stop chatting and compalining! I have offered the idea of collecting our stories and submit them to the the local police departments all over the Europe. if you will bring to your police the case of fraud for over 10000 euros, than it obviously will be more impressive, than complain of 500 euros paid to the fakes. Am I right?
I have got enough stories in my mailbox already, I can send them to anyone of you, so that you could submit them...just let me know - lilutta@gmail.com
Once more reminding you not to hesitate and report about your story to the following authorities
https://complaint.ic3.gov/ctf.aspx
http://www.actionfraud.org.uk/
Although I have written to the 3 most popular public editions in UK - The Times, The Sun and Guardian, still I have got nothing, but I intend to contact them once more, to find out, why this case is not interesting for them....
stay in touch!good luck!

HEY EVERYONE!
I HAVE MADE A LIST OF VICTIMS, AT THE MOMENT IT CONSISTS OF 22 STORIES. UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE THE PAYMENT DETAILS FROM ALL OF YOU!
SEND YOUR STORIES TO MY E-MAIL - lilutta@gmail.com
I WILL SEND THE LIST TO EVERYONE, WHO MAIL ME, YOU MAY USE IT THEN FOR COMPLAINING TO YOUR LOCAL POLICE OFFICES, FOR PUBLISHING IN YOUR LOCAL EDITIONS ETC.
Anyway, nobody from authorities can refuse from investigation of thousends of euros fraudulently kept from people...
JOIN US, IF NOT TO REFUND OUR DAMAGE, THAN AT LEAST TO PREVENT SAME CRIMES OR JUST TO ACT SOMEHOW AGAINST THE INDIFFERENCE OF THE AUTHORITIES!!!

Hi, I paid 369,75€ to firstcameras.net. The Beneficiary Bank is:
National Westminster Bank
Swift/BIC: NWBKGB2L
IBAN: GB86 NWBK 6022 2368 4168 65
Order#746637

Hi, I paid 369,75€ to firstcameras.net. The Beneficiary Bank is:
National Westminster Bank
Swift/BIC: NWBKGB2L
IBAN: GB86 NWBK 6022 2368 4168 65
Order#746637

hi lilu I've send to you a mail but I still waiting your replay

Hey,
I am a new vicgim from Finland, payment on Thursdat 24.3.2011 10:25

1115,75 euros to

Camera warehouse/FIrst Cameras
13 Fresham Rd. Norwich, NR2 2BT UK

Beneficiary Bank:
Barclays Bank

Bank Address:
67 Cape Hill, Smethwick, B66 4RZ, United Kingdom

Account Name:
EU-Elektronics

SWIFT/BIC:
BARCGB22

IBAN:
GB88 BARC 2009 0370 0114 36
Bank: Barclays Bank
67 Cape Hill, Smethwick, B66 4RZ UK

Payment reference/Order Nr 747514

hey!
there are 27 victims by now in the list. the total damage is 19 875 euros.
during next week i am waiting for more messages on my mail address. definately provide your message with amount of damage and payment details.
looking forward!
after the list is ready, I will send it to everyone, who has participated in creating of victim's list.
thank you! and hold on! )))

Hy! My name is Daniel end i order in 24 feb..end i receive this email: "Dear Sir or Madam,
Please allow 2-3 working days for the payment to reach our account.
If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact us.
Sincerely,
Brett Keller
First Cameras
Camera Warehouse Ltd
13 Frensham Road
Norwich, NR3 2BT
United Kingdom
Company No. 06523440
Phone: 020 3239 8835
Email: sales@firstcameras.net" I pay with International Bank Transfer amount 609.85 euro. I check online end i see pending pending...then returned..then again pending...was very suspicious but i hope..end then when i check again in the night i see that evrething was a scam..i was to the police end i waith. I hope we can do something together.

Regards,
Daniel

Hello! I am other victim, from Spain, i have scamed by these motherfuckers, 449 euros. I have tried to back money but their bank account is blocked and now there arent any euros in account.
We have to create a group in facebook and try to do a document or data base and send it to interpool or others authorities.
Is so easy found them and catch them, but any autority move if not is so much money. sorry for my english.
- We have their email with ip.
- They have registered a lot of banks accounts.
- The money can be traced and detect phisically the scammers.
But if not 1 or 2 millions of euros is so difficult Police do something.

Pedro,
send me an email with your payment details, I will add them the list of victims. There are already 28 members. total damage is over 20 000 euros.
join and we will see, what can we do...
anyway, if there is a group of people, their voice is more powerful.
best wishes,
send me an email to lilutta@gmail.com

hi lilu

I've paid this

International Bank Transfer Details
------------------------------------------------------
Beneficiary Bank:
Barclays Bank

Bank Address:
1 The Broadway, Stanmore, HA7 4DB, United Kingdom

Account Name:
First-Cam

SWIFT/BIC:
BARCGB22

IBAN:
GB44 BARC 2029 3723 9815 09

Order Total:
€589.95

Hi, I am from Austria

lost € 389,95 for a Nikon D 90 Body. Transfere date was march 09 to halifax bank bic HKFXGB21M31, ibaN GB06 HLFX 111 3100 5292 74. Receifed e-mail yesterday after several enquiries camera is on way. See no way to get money back.

hello,
send me the details of your payment to the email. I will email back to you and inform you about any offers, plans ideas. there are over 30 victims joined together, those who lost the money and want to find the justice.
lilutta@gmail.com

Hy othmar,
warst du schon bei der Polizei in Österreich? Wenn ja wo hast du es angezeigt. Interpol sollte dann von unserer Polizeistellt kontaktiert werden.
Wir sollten uns zusammentun um die Schadenssumme zu erhöhen. Angeblich passiert unter 5000.- nix.

Go to your local Police Station and file a charge. They will contact your federal police (homeland police). If there are enough who make complaints, there will be an action. I went to the police yesterday and it only took me about 45min. It is worth that!

thank you for advice! i will definately do that and others will also do in their countries...
good luck!

Hi, perhaps it gives a new way. I find out the new "criminal" adress of the fuckers: www.leylandelectronic.com. With an lala-adress I make an order .. the same payment-options, bank-transfer or hight costs with credit card. The same prices for the goods!

Hi Birgit,
"Family shop until 30 years and 5 year website" they say, but domain names (.com and .net) subscribed only on 03/21/2011 at Godaddy.com via proxy ;-))
Try : http://whois.domaintools.com/leylandelectronic.com
For French, I've discovered government adress to complain : https://www.internet-signalement.gouv.fr/PortailWeb/planets/SignalerEtapeAccepter!load.action
Hope this may help to fight.
Bye
CH@RLY

ebay and amazon supported criminals with payed advertisements on there websites. These criminals are also protected by the Banks. We shoul make them responsible and sensible for this problem.
Pls . push the publik edditions in uk as much as you can.

regards - othmar

Hello fellow sufferers, Without delving I ordered two cameras from Canon and 2 lenses from Tamron. 1260.-€. My Order Status has Since the order on 26/02/2011 changed several times and now stands at Order Shipped.. I have realized that we are all losers! I'm waiting now to Monday and then be reimbursed indication for fraud. My payment details are: Lloyds TSB
Bank Address:
27-31 Westgate, Peterborough, PE11YH, United Kingdom
Account: FirstCam
SWIFT/BIC: LOYDGB21E95
IBAN: GB37 LOYD 7772 1645 0298 63
Greetings from Germany to all.

Sadly scammed... another one hit by the perfect website firstcameras.net
The bastards have stolen me 419 euros for a Canon 550D, payed by bank transfer.

Damned me: I was so sure it was a real company, that I didn't check anywhere on the web about their references.

After a week they didn't ship my order I requested my money back (as the order status was always in"payment pending" status), but they didn't answered. So I denounced them.

Order made on 2 march, payment 3 march. Denounce to Italian Police: 10 march.
419 euros lost.

Sincerely
Marco - Italy

ciao io gli ho inviato quasi 600€, tu hai mandato una mail a lilul

Hi, I am from Germany

lost € 619,85 for a Nikon D 90 und 2 lenses. Transfere date was february 23 to
(content of the email from first cameras):
International Bank Transfer Details
------------------------------------------------------
Beneficiary Bank:
HSBC Bank
Bank Address:
36 North ST, Rugby, CV21 2XD, United Kingdom
Account Name:
FirstCam
SWIFT/BIC: MIDLGB2108W
IBAN: GB21 MIDL 4039 1182 1357 28
Order Total: €619.85
Payment Reference: 745683
------------------------------------------------------
Please notify our billing department by e-mail: billing@firstcameras.net on the day you wire your payment.

This information is very important in order to properly credit your account.

Allow 2-3 working days for the payment to reach our account.

Your order has been updated to the following status.
New status: Payment Pending

I see no way to get my money back!
Sincerely
Birgit - Germany

Hi guys,

Make room for another moron. I looked forward to buy my wife some birthday gift, and wired EUR 2,400 last March 24th to www.firstcameras.net's bank account. When I came to check my order status as of today (March 28th), I found the site was down and came across this page to my desmay.

I've rushed to my bank office since the money order had been completed (guess just this morning), and the guys there are trying to refund on possible fraud reported basis -told them I'd run with any fee, I just hope it's not too late. I will let you know, they told me it 'could' be back sometime this week but they don't know exactly how long would it take.

I transferred to FIRST-CAM, National Westminster Bank PC, 204 High St., E17 7 JH Walthamstow GB.

Sincerely,

Mario - Spain

Hola Mario, yo tambié he perdido mucho dinero (unos 1800€) y el ingreso lo hice en el mismo banco: Westminster. Me interesa mucho saber si consigues algo con tu banco ya que yo no tengo muchas esperanzas con mi caja de ahorros. Si me pudieras dar algún detalle en adrianvaliente@gmail.com te lo agradecería mucho.
Un saludo.

My bad: total sum possiibly lost is EUR 2,629.30

Mario - Spain

Hi, I'm Polish - unfortunately it was cheated by firstcameras.net. March 3, 2011 ordered a Canon 550D + Memory card I paid 449.90 Eur
details of the transaction
ACCOUNT NO (RECIPIENT):
Account Number: GB24LOYD30978516128460
Name of Bank: LLOYDS TSB BANK PLC.
Bank Code (BIC): LOYDGB21514
City: MIDDLESEX / SOUTH HARROW
Country: UNITED KINGDOM
Recipient: First-Cam
13 Frensham Road
Norwich, NR3 2BT
TRANSACTION DETAILS
Transfer Amount: -449.90 EUR
Title: Payment Reference: 746672
Posting Date: 08/03/2011

Hi, I'm Polish - unfortunately it was cheated by firstcameras.net. March 3, 2011 ordered a Canon 550D + Memory card I paid 449.90 Eur
details of the transaction
ACCOUNT NO (RECIPIENT):
Account Number: GB24LOYD30978516128460
Name of Bank: LLOYDS TSB BANK PLC.
Bank Code (BIC): LOYDGB21514
City: MIDDLESEX / SOUTH HARROW
Country: UNITED KINGDOM
Recipient: First-Cam
13 Frensham Road
Norwich, NR3 2BT
TRANSACTION DETAILS
Transfer Amount: -449.90 EUR
Title: Payment Reference: 746672
Posting Date: 08/03/2011

Also scammed, I already sent my story to lilu

othomar, you mentioned ebay, amazon and you can add google to the list! I totaly agree, they are also responsible for what happened to us.

if this happened to any french, we could get in touch and see what we can do about it.

Also if I can be of any help, let me know ! I already reported this scam to several agencies including IC3.

We should contact a lawyer to see what we can do...

Also scammed, I already sent my story to lilu

othomar, you mentioned ebay, amazon and you can add google to the list! I totaly agree, they are also responsible for what happened to us.

if this happened to any french, we could get in touch and see what we can do about it.

Also if I can be of any help, let me know ! I already reported this scam to several agencies including IC3.

We should contact a lawyer to see what we can do...

Dear all,
As you have noticed some Lilu was very active in collecting data from the victims. She said that more than 20 had reply. She would give the result by mail to the victims, so that the victims can collective reported to the local police.

I am one of those victims, but nothing I have received from Lilu.

And because now I don’t trust no longer anyone on internet and so much identity fraud is committed. I ask to Lilu to answer the e-mail and send the promised data or I feel obligated to report this in my notification to the police.

another one hits the dust....advert on e-bay...1.300 euro's later.... I've been scammed.
Barclay's very unhelpful, we have to protect our customers....can not give any info. I'm in
GREECE and Barclay's have told me to go to the police station and tell them to notify Interpol!! is that what everyone else is doing....

Dear all,
As you have noticed some Lilu was very active in collecting data from the victims. She said that more than 20 had reply. She would give the result by mail to the victims, so that the victims can collective reported to the local police.

I am one of those victims, but nothing I have received from Lilu.

And because now I don’t trust no longer anyone on internet and so much identity fraud is committed. I ask to Lilu to answer the e-mail and send the promised data or I feel obligated to report this in my notification to the police.

Dear all,
As you have noticed some Lilu was very active in collecting data from the victims. She said that more than 20 had reply. She would give the result by mail to the victims, so that the victims can collective reported to the local police.

I am one of those victims, but nothing I received from Lilu.

And because now I don’t trust no longer anyone on internet and so much identity fraud is committed. I ask to Lilu to answer the e-mail and send the promised data or I feel obligated to report this in my notification to the police.

MGM

Hi MGM you are riht not to terust anyone on the web but i expect that anything you provided her with could not be used to gain funds from your account, you didn't send your security code?

Or has this person asked you any questions that might make you think you they are trying to steal your money?

If you think this is so then contact your bank and ask for all fund transfers to be canceled.

Hope you are wrong everyone on here has suffered enough!

I was wrong..no problem any more ....everything is OK! she have send me everything.
Thanks Andrew

PS:of course I don't give my security code...but I know about fraud without that too.

I was wrong..no problem any more ....everything is OK! she have send me everything.
Thanks Andrew

PS:of course I don't give my security code...but I know about fraud without that too.

I was wrong..no problem any more ....everything is OK! she have send me everything.
Thanks Andrew

PS:of course I don't give my security code...but I know about fraud without that too.

Hi all! Just to say that found another site with the same schema.
I think that they are the same.
www.cameratrail.net

Hi all! Just to say that found another site with the same schema.
I think that they are the same.
www.cameratrail.net

Hi all! Just to say that found another site with the same schema.
I think that they are the same.
www.cameratrail.net

Hi all, another name is laylandelectronic.com and I've been scammed. Don't even know how to describe my feelings. contacted my bank phone support to see if they still can stop or block payment but have to wait till Monday.

Hi all, another name is laylandelectronic.com and I've been scammed. Don't even know how to describe my feelings. contacted my bank phone support to see if they still can stop or block payment but have to wait till Monday.

Hi all, another name is laylandelectronic.com and I've been scammed. Don't even know how to describe my feelings. contacted my bank phone support to see if they still can stop or block payment but have to wait till Monday.

sorry for double posting

hi everybody!
over 60 victims of FC are already in the list...the total damage is more than 53 000 euros...sad results...but I would like to thank everyone, who has trusted me and sent the stories...
in spite of our unfortunate experience I still think, that we shouldn't become suspicious and paranoic. there are honest people and there is a honest trade in the internet, we only need to be a little bit more careful nnext time...and as the popular russian saying says - the stingy one pays twice...most of us were seducted by unbelievably low prices...weren't we?
the list may be used now as an evidence and submited to the local police departments or any other authorities...good luck!

Hi, I was wondering if you have already submitted the list to the police and what was the outcome of this? I have been following this thread since April 5th, having myself been trapped by First Cameras on March 30th.

Hi, I was wondering if you have already submitted the list to the police and what was the outcome of this? I have been following this thread since April 5th, having myself been trapped by First Cameras on March 30th.

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