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Alex Fitzgerald
NAA - National Agents Alliance - fitzgroup.org naafitz.com

NAA BULLSHIT

NAA - National Agents Alliance
4002 Beltline Road
Addison Texas 75001
United States
Phone: 972-386-5773
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I responded to a job posting on CareerBuilder.com under insurance agents. The source was unnamed and, only by clicking the link and appplying for the job, did I find out that it was an "agency" in Texas called the Fitz Group which is an agent for NAA (National Agents Alliance). I received three e-mails about 10 minutes after I filled out a brief form at 6PM Los Angeles time (8PM in Texas). The first two were duplicates asking me to watch a 16 minute video by the agency owner, Alex Fitzgerald. The other was for me to call the agency's recruiter Joanne Patek then next day. In the video, Mark, who wants to be called "Fitz", talked about a lot of things, but what stuck in my mind was a statement saying that by obtaining referrals (a necessity in a commission-based job, especially in finance and insurance), you could "wean" yourself off of buying leads. I came to find out that the parent organization, NAA, sends out millions of mailers all over the United States to solicit business and it controls the flow of leads. The agents, like Fitz, encourage you to buy leads, which cost $25 for a "good" or "warm" lead off of a map of the U.S. on one of NAA's websites. There is NO reason for ANYONE to have to spend that kind of money on a lead that is not exclusively yours. I have talked to quite a few other people today that were with various agencies affliated with NAA, and to a person, all have said the same thing: THESE LEADS ARE WORTHLESS. THEY HAVE BEEN SOLD, RECYCLED, AND RESOLD MANY TIMES. Also, the leads that are available are by county only and Los Angeles County is huge (over 10,000 square miles in area). The expenses required to do business with this organization are outrageously high and the returns are ridiculously low. Three agents I spoke with all made around $100,000 per year, but one of them netted only $13,000 after deducting expenses: gas, telephone, lead costs, and most importantly, chargebacks. The other two agents cleared in the $20,000-25,000 range. None of these three people are involved with NAA any more.

I know one thing for sure: I WILL NOT BE INVOLVED WITH THIS KING OF BULLSHIT WHERE ALL THOSE PEOPLE ABOVE YOU MAKE A LOT OF MONEY AT MY EXPENSE. This resembles an MLM in so many respects, even if it isn't one (and I am NOT sure that it isn't). In closing, in the words of the ancient Romans: CAVEAT EMPTOR; let the buyer beware.



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nyesitter,

I just got done interviewing for a recruiter position at the addison office in Texas and they will most likely be hiring me. I have spent the last hour researching this company on the web, and saw about 4,000 complaints on Indeed.com.

I have become very skeptical of this company, and although as a recruiter I will not be investing any of my own money into the business, I feel like I will be scamming the agents out of their hard earned money in the long run. I have the potential to make good money here, I think from a moral aspect I will have to decline this job offer. Thanks for your input.

from a moral aspect???? there s nothing immoral about this job----- take the job an work it--- or---- you may be better off with a regular job

First of all, I know Alex Fitzgerald personally, and he's as good a man as I've known.
The ramblings of the original poster are downright ridiculous and really couldn't be further from the truth. The leads aren't worthless, they are simply an investment in yourself and your business. Paying for leads in the insurance business is pretty much standard practice.
I signed my contract with NAA in November of 2005, and never once have I been pressured to buy leads. I choose to buy them because they're a tool to grow my business. It's pretty hard to sell, when you've got nobody to sell to, right?
It's funny that someone with an obvious complete lack of understanding of the insurance industry can come on here and throw a bunch of crap on a web page about a good man and a good company. What a joke.

total crap - tell us how much you are really making sonny!

nyesitter you need to find a job and do something a little better with your time! Do you think that Institutions as BIG as Mutual of Omaha and ING would do Business with a Company that is a "SCAM" I do not Think SO! We have agents on our team that made $80,000+ in 2010 and have only spent $150 on leads! You NEVER have to buy a Lead from Our SYSTEM... EVER!
Stop Being a Stumbling Block for Others Who Want Financial Freedom and have Success in Life!

Give us names...seriously - some of us still get the leaderboards....whose raking in the bucks?

nyesitter you need to find a job and do something a little better with your time! Do you think that Institutions as BIG as Mutual of Omaha and ING would do Business with a Company that is a "SCAM" I do not Think SO! We have agents on our team that made $80,000+ in 2010 and have only spent $150 on leads! You NEVER have to buy a Lead from Our SYSTEM... EVER!
Stop Being a Stumbling Block for Others Who Want Financial Freedom and have Success in Life!

nyesitter, you need to find a job and do something a little better with your time! Do you think that Institutions as BIG as Mutual of Omaha and ING would do Business with a Company that is a "SCAM" I do not Think SO! We have agents on our team that made $80,000+ in 2010 and have only spent $150 on leads! You NEVER have to buy a Lead from Our SYSTEM... EVER!
Stop Being a Stumbling Block for Others Who Want Financial Freedom and have Success in Life!

nyesitter, you need to find a job and do something a little better with your time! Do you think that Institutions as BIG as Mutual of Omaha and ING would do Business with a Company that is a "SCAM" I do not Think SO! We have agents on our team that made $80,000+ in 2010 and have only spent $150 on leads! You NEVER have to buy a Lead from Our SYSTEM... EVER!
Stop Being a Stumbling Block for Others Who Want Financial Freedom and have Success in Life!

nyesitter, you need to find a job and do something a little better with your time! Do you think that Institutions as BIG as Mutual of Omaha and ING would do Business with a Company that is a "SCAM" I do not Think SO! We have agents on our team that made $80,000+ in 2010 and have only spent $150 on leads! You NEVER have to buy a Lead from Our SYSTEM... EVER!
Stop Being a Stumbling Block for Others Who Want Financial Freedom and have Success in Life!

nyesitter, you need to find a job and do something a little better with your time! Do you think that Institutions as BIG as Mutual of Omaha and ING would do Business with a Company that is a "SCAM" I do not Think SO! We have agents on our team that made $80,000+ in 2010 and have only spent $150 on leads! You NEVER have to buy a Lead from Our SYSTEM... EVER!
Stop Being a Stumbling Block for Others Who Want Financial Freedom and have Success in Life!

Bigger companies did business with Bernie Madoff.

I also know Alex and Heather. They are a compassionate couple. I am not in their organization (which means they don't make a single dime from me); however, they have helped me tremendously. Obviously, you have NO CLUE!!! As for NAA, being a scam and forcing you to buy leads, is a BIG LIE! I was with them for 4 months before I purchaed a single lead and I did it to write more business for my family. Dude, you need to get it right.

I like how you say, "They are a compassionate couple. I am not in their organization (which means they don't make a single dime from me)" but then go on to say, "I was with them for 4 months before I purchaed a single lead and I did it to write more business for my family."

L2L LOL YFM

This NAA bullshit is the worst scam I have ever seen.. Unfortunately many people will have to experience by themselves the "opportunity" to realize the kind of liars that this organization has created..

If you have a bit of intelligence, this comment won't even be necessary for you to realize that NAA IS A SCAM

cheers!

I have done insurance for over 11 years now and know the posters comments are FAR from the truth. I tried many lead producing companies and methods before finding NAA, and all have had their faults. At least with NAA, any and all processes and systems are explained to you, and you have the support of highly ethical people such as Fitz and what the owners offer to those who want to do better in life through the business model offered. Any insurance business is built on overrides, but only NAA has a sharing by new agents management in the lead cost. Talk to new agents who are still becoming successful and make a decision on your own, not just what you read that lacks info you need.

Just wait until I come in and write your customers up on fully underwritten after you cash that advance commission check. Learn this word: Chargebacks!....then this phrase: Lead bill rollups. Enjoy

I am semi-retired and am looking for something to keep me busy. A friend told me about NAA. I googled NAA + scam and came on your post. While I am still investigating, and undecided. You sir are ignorant, as well as uneducated. Can you not articulate your thoughts in a more civil and professional dialogue? While saying something is bullshit, or a little more politeway: BS. It shows you have no depth to your vocabulary. I would not allow someone as unrefined as you to set foot in my front door. I think you are probably just a whiner. In Jeffrey Gitomer's Little Red Book of Selling he states that only 5% of people in sales are truly successful. Is this because a large percantage are whiners like you?

I find it so funny that I ran across this thread concerning NAA. I have come in contact with over 50 agents from NAA. They all fall into 3 groups. Either they are making $$$, JUST GETTING BY, or BROKE..... The ones that are making $$$ are not quite following the NAA model. Now don't get me wrong, they follow the steps... but they don't MAKE THE HUGE MISTAKE of over paying for NAA's "A-LEADS". That there in a nutshell is the secret. I am not with NAA.... I'm an Indy who receives 110% and 30% off of my agents under me. I also know personally the INFAMOUS ED ORELL and how he gets down....

The secret to success when it comes to MLM Insurance is VERY SIMPLE....DON'T OVER PAY FOR "A" LEADS!!!

I have seen individuals lose damn near everything buying crappy leads from NAA and similar companies. I myself and others who actually know the game don't pay NOWHERE NEAR what they pay for ours... so our OPERATION COST is LOW and our Prospect Numbers are higher... which also equates to a higher profit return.

I shake my head when I hear these stories of individuals DRIVING 3 hours ONE WAY in hope of a "SELL". I seen an agent pay $25 per lead and every last one of those leads were damn near a 4 hour drive one way. (she bought 20 total, only made 1 appointment.... drove 4 hours.... got there.... and it was a NO SHOW). NOW that is a very discouraging feeling....

Seriously, you can make $$$$ with NAA, but you have to stop drinking their LEAD KOOL-AID.

I personally make $15,000 a month off my agency here in Georgia.... and that's "MINUS" my lead cost. Also, I DO NOT DRIVE FURTHER THEN 45 MINUTES ONE WAY FOR AN APPOINTMENT. I also do not buy leads that are trash and has had every Tom, Dick, and Harry fingerprints on them. So please people, do yourself a favor and ask questions... and stop with the blind faith madness. I pay A FRACTION OF THE COST for my A-LEADS and PROFIT enough money to pay my bills, my fiance's Graduate Studies, my soon to be Wedding, and my retired father's mortgage.... and still have enough money to save for my retirement.

If you want to stop paying for leads that are CRAP and will end up putting you in the Poor House... drop me an email

<a href="mailto:alex_cribbs@yahoo.com">alex_cribbs@yahoo.com</a>

If you want to continue spending $20+ on CRAP go right ahead..

Bro... A LEADS are crazy!!! If you can't outsell your lead bill... YOU SUCK and you don't listen to anyone teaching you how to make it happen!

I don't care if I have a 10k lead bill a week.. I'll make 30k and cash flow 20k... that's why it's a BUSINESS!!!

STAY BROKE if you want! ANDY HAS GIVEN US ALL GOLD!!!

Anybody know how the forum on on indeed.com named "naascam" thats been up for over 3 years, all of a sudden vanished?

I with a company who pay's everyone 100% on Life to start. They also encourage recruiting (like everyone) But the only difference is Every one comes in at 100%. You get a 15% override on all 1st level agents and a 7.5% on all they refer etc. It goes to 5 level and they payout up to 130% on Mortgage protect and final expense. They have all products and selling platforms for each and all top contracts. They let you maintain your individual agency identity. They also have leads but their subsidized by the company they only cost $5.00 each. This is the real insurance business not X MLMer's. Just keep looking you will find real programs out there. I feel bad for the people who have been sold false hope and am embarrassed for the people who defend it. Every body should get the same amount of commission for the sale, period. just because someone joined the day earlier they make money on your efforts like a SLAVE. NUT's totally NUT"S.....

Care to name the company? Sounds too go to be true!

I had just signed up for an interview with NAA, then researching the Co. came upon your posting. Would you refer the Co. name, need a recruit?

could you call me or email about your company. Sounds interesting.

Harry Norris 928-388-2801

very interested in your company. Do you have a replicated company recruiting site I could go to or another way of contacting you?
928-388-2801

Be afraid, be very afraid! My wife and I drank the NAA Kool-aide last year. We were on all the calls, went to the meetings, etc. We found out too late that NAA is a money pit. Every bit of the help we asked for came with a price tag! Semi-Annual conventions, Boot camp training, CDs, DVDs, MP3s, Books, Literature, and even the coffee mug we had on the fridge. They charged for everything! The only people making money are upper management and owners. My upline sent me leads for medicare and I don't even have a health insurance license! They kept giving me the run-a-round and still to this day several months later have not refunded my money for those leads. When I started to complain, and stopped buying leads, my up-line blackballed me and cut me off from all meetings, e-mails, and conference calls. Thanks to the good LORD above that we only lost a few thousand dollars instead of tens of thousands like several others did!

Just completed my IRS audit... Why?? I had ridiculous travel expenses and other naa related expense in 2008 which triggered red flags. So now Im deeper in the hole thanks to naa. "You can live with the pain of discipline or pain of regret" says art sleezer...I live w the regret of staying w naa after smallbright took over @ end of 2007!

I have to thank the internet. I was approached today with a job offer into NAA. And the way it went down was exactly the horror stories I'm reading right now. Has anyone heard of these "gentlemen", Patrick Connors and James Grover? I was laid off early January 2011 and thought this may be a legit job offer. Now,I'm thinking these "gentlemen" are snakes.

I don't know James Grover, but I do know Patrick Connors. He's a good guy and is someone I admire. You have to remember that NAA isn't going to lie to you about what the possibilities are. Not everyone is going to make it, period. It is what it is. Are there better opportunities out there for someone starting in the insurance business, probably, BUT you're going to be hard pressed to find better training and support. If you don't like what you're being told, find something else to do.

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I was in NAA and once I started figuring out something was wrong and looked for another company to sell for, let's call him "John" to keep his name out of this started bashing my name on the conference calls. They are not truthful people and the agent that recruited me that was under "John" repeatedly lied to his customers and trained us to be not so honest with our customers on certain things. The big meetings remind me of Amway and to be honest Alex and others are getting rich off of insurance agents that don't have a clue what's going on. They pay small percentages to their agents and make money on years to come. I am a believer you reap what you sew and trust me it will come back on them and I see that there's many people that have been burned already and are speaking up. Don't sign up for this scam, find another honest company.

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