kramer kaslow http://www.kramer-kaslow.com - KRAMER & KASLOW Scam www.kramer-kaslow.com

Scary to see so much of this.

Ola

That sucks, not everyone gets burnt though, these guys handle my case and reduced my payment by about 20% and got my late payments brought to the back. I wanted more but in the end I got what I paid for.

Im not surprised 0 they grew 12 branches over night & you can buy the name kRAMER & KASLOW FOR YOUR EMAIL name & leads ! just google in kramer & kaslow 411 leads & BOOM you can become them! I worked there & when I saw what they were doing - i quit! & then warned everyone I could- then they threatened to take out a law suit for slander of the companies name & said they lost lots of money because wrote bad reviews about them! & I had to remove my comments on scam board!- can you believe this?? lawyers will sue you for doing the right thing- warning others of their money hungry scam - shame on them, how do they sleep at night?

they took us for 3 thousand dollars!! I went there to phsyically go talk to someone beause I was tired of the run around & there was not even an attorney there. They said they were just an intake office? I could hear the sales people on the phone telling everyone the same BS! & they had signs hung up like - "dont take no for an answer" & they rang this bell ( SO TACKY) every time they got a sale or picked up a new sucker like me- and made an appointment to schedule a notary to pick up YOUR money at your house!

we did some research; truth is anyone can start up a " jack in the box law office ! & use the kramer kaslow name -which is a flawless law board record & use THAT NAME to HIDE BEHIND- they are crooks & I highly recommend that of you need a real estate attorney that you open the phone book & meet them face to face- not some tacky sweat shop scam market where you are just another $ dollar sign in their eyes - ITS disgusting what people do to their fellow man for the almighty dollar bill - God help us all

This must stop- ! - they scam so many people & it takes forever to catch them because they know every legal loop hole that exists

I think some of this is true it stinks that some people are getting scammed but they saved me $600 a month I think some of the sister companies are bad learning which ones are good and which ones bad is the hard thing

I think some of this is true it stinks that some people are getting scammed but they saved me $600 a month I think some of the sister companies are bad learning which ones are good and which ones bad is the hard thing

they took us for 3 thousand dollars!! I went there to physically go talk to someone beause I was tired of the run around & there was not even an attorney there. They said they were just an intake office? I could hear the sales people on the phone telling everyone the same BS! & they had signs hung up like - "dont take no for an answer" & they rang this bell ( SO TACKY) every time they got a sale or picked up a new sucker like me- and made an appointment to schedule a notary to pick up YOUR money at your house!

we did some research; truth is anyone can start up a " jack in the box law office ! & use the kramer kaslow name -which is a flawless law board record & use THAT NAME to HIDE BEHIND- they are crooks & I highly recommend that of you need a real estate attorney that you open the phone book & meet them face to face- not some tacky sweat shop scam market where you are just another $ dollar sign in their eyes - ITS disgusting what people do to their fellow man for the almighty dollar bill - God help us all

yeah- go to 411leads.com & YOU TOO can become Kramer & Kaslow- even have your email address start up kit for your scam business- its so dang disgusting how people operate these days!

This company is ran by the same people that used to run the Arase Law Firm and who currently run Quantum Law Firm.

Same people, same scam.

They took us too...a family of eight! i've never felt so lied to in all my life! We are now on the brink of homelessness with 6 children. How can people like this sleep at night. The ywill pay a huge price some day!!

This company IS a scam!!!!!

I should have known at the beginning this was going to be a bad experience when I had a contract for me to pay my fees to Kramer-Kaslow for their services, and instead they charged me $3,500 upfront (which is ILLEGAL - Senate Bill 94).

I can deal with losing $3500 upfront, however now I am losing my home. I was told to keep making my modified payments, I complied, and just recently I had assessors come to my home because my home had been foreclosed and was going to be sold - I found out that my lender had denied my modification in June. I informed Brandon, who was supposed to be working on my mod (and who told me to continue to make my payements even after my mod had been denied), Brandon was supposed to call me back but it's been two weeks and I've heard nothing. I call every day, ten times a day, and I'm told by a "service" that he and the supervisors are in meetings.

I had this guy named Jerry (ocean Side Ca.) from the Offices of Kramer & Kaslow call me an hour ago. He told me he would make arrangements to pick up my certified check for $4000.00 and get me 'going'. I didn't 'fall off the wagon' yesterday. I checked out Kramer and Kaslow with Ca. BBB. They have the lowest possible rating with the BBB, F rating. What a bunch of scam Artists. Do your home work. Don't give these crooks a dime.

The Calabasas office ( Nancy Torres) stole my $3500 dollars for a loan modification that I had to do myself after not hearing from them for months. They are thieves do not trus them.

Thanks for the info, Looks like I will have a little fun be confronting them about the scam when they call back. Thanks for saving me my $3000. God Bless you in your endeavors to save your homes.

I talk to hundreds of people per week and every single one of them is upset, because they have been scammed. Kramer and Kaslow has an F rating with the BBB.

I talk to hundreds of people per week and every single one of them is upset, because they have been scammed. Kramer and Kaslow has an F rating with the BBB.

I have lots of experience with the banks and loan mods and all I can tell you is there is no such thing as a happy loan mod unless you get principal reduction to market value or lower and there have been very few of those by anyone

The mass joinder lawsuit seems to be the perfect strategy to bring down the scum banksters. We get the power of the group to raise the money necessary but yet the individual settlements will be on a case by case basis unlike a class action where only the attorneys make any money

the jury is still out for me as far as k2law is concerned. I have more research to do but I will tell all you folks don't count on the BBB for jacksquat. They are as crooked as anyone...just do a scamcheck on them. Don't use BBB to judge a law firm use Martindale and any other legal verification companies to get a much more accurate reading on the firm.

Interested in more detail for an article I'm trying to put together about scams like this. Anyone have details they want to share? Email me at jrnlchick@hotmail.com.

There is the same story..... Someone Vince Malek called me from
Vince Malek
K2 Law / Mitchell J. Stein & Associates
1900 Quail Street, Suite 137
Newport Beach, CA 92660
Office (888) 938-5554 x2194
Direct (949) 313-2194
Fax (714) 845-9094
vmalek@k2Law.net

Is this a scam.

$5000 retainer, no guarantee you can get money
min loan mod to 2% 80% of market value now, and punity damages maybe.. $75K

A few mistakes about my loans was mentioned.. hhhmmm I did not say those...

Checked the BBB site and the worst part.
vmalek@k2Law.net IS A BLANK GO DADDDY site... LOL

SCAMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

K2-law is a scam they tried to scam us and almost did! The real Phillip A Kramer lists all the unauthorized predatory trademark stealing websites and emails who are pretending to be affiliated with the real law firm that is doing the litigation. Mr. Kramer is not connected with the solicitation that was received in the mail by many people that have been scammed out of there money. "Isn't that mail fraud by the way." They go by many similar names but check carefully and you will discover which ones are the fraudulently ones and which ones are legit. Good luck.
Please notify me if you were scammed. Thank you!

I got received a mailing about K2 Law our of Newport Beach, a Division of Kramer and Kaslow, about the joinder case mentioned by C. Kerren above, and the person I spoke to was V. Malek, also above mentioned. I became suspicios because they have not called me back nor did they want to acknowledge receipt of documents in writing, they just called back and after they want things in a hurried manner, they don't seem to respond with the same urgency that they are trying to get people! I have sent them communications and I am going to report them to any investigation places that I can. Fortunately, I have not given any money and just sent them an email letting them know I am up on their action and watching. I will call my lenders and credit people and alert them as well!

I am not sure but the real Kramer & Kaslow have said they are not invoved with K2. Check out there website. There is like 20 websites and e-mail address that are claiming to be them but they are different. I am glad you did not send them any money. Hopefully the FBI will bust these guy's next week. I am reporting them to everyone I can to. You know there has to be alot of victims. If was very hard to distinguish the real from the fake. There is an article explaining how the name of Kramer & kaslow was being sold as a easy money making scheme. Check it out and good luck. Maybe we can join the real case. Go to Kramer-kaslow.com to get the truth and read the article and see the list of phonies!

Is there anyone out there who was actually contacted by Philip Kramer or any of his known associates? Can anyone attest to whether or not he is really one of the "good guys"?? I'd hate to have him lose business because of this if he is really not behind it, but how can we be sure?

The Scam Gets Deeper!! Litigation-Alliance .com
{K2-Law.com/ KramerandKaslowlaw.com}
Magically Morphed into {Litigation-Alliance .Com}
In Two Days! And Now Is Masquerading as Mass Litigation Alliance!

We were notified by E-Mailed of the change of the names of the E-Mail’s and websites on Tuesday! It was amazing to me that someone can Copy a website almost completely that you cannot tell the difference between the two. On Tuesday the site had errors where they called themselves Litigation Alliance instead of Mass Litigation Alliance, but it was magically corrected two days later. It is really hard to tell the difference between the two but, the address and phone numbers are different… They wouldn’t want you to send the money to the wrong address for god‘s sake!

Let me be totally clear the people we were dealing with K2- law and Kramer and Kaslow Law.com Two of the unauthorized websites are now pretending to be Litigation-Aliance.com and who know how many other ones will pop up and Morph off the name Mass litigation Alliance!

I wish someone would clarify this for once and for all! I am getting really sick of this. Now John Wright is posting that Matthew Davis and Mass Litigation alliance are not authorized either.

I was contacted by the fraudsters and they changed there E-mail to litigation-alliance.com. So I am sure they are fake. I don't know for sure about the other's but there is a fake a website that Copies Mass litigation alliance exactly that was created over the weekend by the old K2-law,please someone bust these guy's.

Please don't fall victim to Litigation- alliance I recommend calling the real Mr. Kramer in calabasas
anyone else you are proably being scammed and will never get your money back. There are thousands of people who have already been scammed. Watch out!

Possibly report each false case with Attorney General.

If Kramer isn't involved has he reported? If not, why not?

I don't know but I did call them last week to ask if they had any offices in Costa Mesa, Irvine area, they asked me is this about K2-law and I was I just need to know if you have an office there. {I hadn't been aware of that name yet} but I did find an e-mail address with that name on some of the e-mail's exchanged between the scammer's and my husband. They told me they would have some one call me back they didn't have any information because they just have been hired to answer the phone! I didn't believe it because they had to transfer me to someone else. They are frantically trying to get us to call them back but I don't want them to know I know it's a scam just yet. I am hoping the authorities are already building there case. Everyday they are in business they are stealing money from people who like me, at first found it really hard to decipher, who is legit in this mess.

As to the scamer's we were dealing with on Tuesday they changed there name to Mass litigation Alliance, using the web address litigation-alliance.com. As far as I can tell they coped the website almost completely. If you are dealing with Litigation-alliance they are a fraud , they are the same company as k2-law. Whether or not Mass litigation Alliance or Matt Davis are legit or not I don't know, but I know there website was copied and you can tell by the web address or the address which is the copied one or not.

To all the people who use BBB to check on Lawyers you are in the wrong place. BBB is itself a money-grubbing organization that threatens businesses that don't pay their exorbitant fees and they are not remotely qualified to judge attorney's. You need to use Martindale or various other legal associations.
Meanwhile the jury is still out on Kramer and Kaslow. They did a cease and desist on many scam groups that were using their name but I am waiting on Martin Andelman to complete an investigation on them and their mass joinder lawsuit. Martin is thorough and completely honest but he has made a couple of mistakes on Recommendations in the past. We are all human and there is so much GREED and IGNORANCE in this country now you almost cannot trust anybody. Everybody is out to scam everyone else cause of lack of jobs as the Oligarchy continues to squash everyone below them. If the teabaggers were not such absolute morons blaming government but not the mega corporations that OWN the government we would have fixed this mess a long time ago. We cannot let these Bankster PIGS slide c'mon people join together and fight for your own well being! Put the pressure on the politicians. Let them know that any vote they make that lets Wall Street and Banksters off with a piddling fine and does not REDUCE principal for every underwater borrower will guarantee them being thrown out of office next election.

I forgot to add that once every underwater loan is reduced to current market value (or lower) the banksters need to be forced to make up the difference to the Bondholders who purchased the crap loans in the fraudulent securitized offerings so that they are made whole. The Bondholders and Borrowers need to be on the same side as do the County Recorders and title companies who were defrauded out of millions of dollars in fees and the integrity of the property recording system in this country by the MERS scam created by these same scumbag Banksters. We have got to make MERS the straw that broke the camel's back.

Is there really any help out there. We are really close to our sale date and still trying to work with the bank. I doubt that will work out. You have to be really careful you don't fall victim to on of the fraudster! I have been on forclousurehamelt and I will try again. I am really tech challenged and don't know how to work some of the sites very well. I have had 4 back surgeries and my husband is of on permanent disability after he fell and broke his back. I would be afaird to trust any one now. I saw that k2-law calling themselves Kramer & kaslow and taking credit for all there work! Change into Litigation alliance overnight, so I know they can easily make a website copy a website or video. It just make you those all faith in people. I will call around tmr. but if you have any advice please I am in great need. Thanks I am getting desperate!

To USMCMOM, if you have a sale date looming, the mass joinder suits are NOT going to help you. There are a few things you can do to push a sale date back. First, you can always apply for another mod. The bank will usually delay the sale while the process the denial. If that doesn't work, you can petition the court for an extension. Of course, BK is always an option as well.

There are a few companies that do foreclosure delay. I'm not sure the exact method, but it has something to do with challenging the trustee. Of course this only works in trustee states like CA. I know of 2 people who have done it successfully...one of them had a sale date almost 2 yrs ago and it is still on delay! It's not a long-term solution, but if you are looking for relief for a couple years, I can email you the company that they used. I do know they offered a 100% money back guarantee.

We tried naca. but by the time they got to us There was just days to stop foreclosure, so we filed bankruptcy and then they will not work with you if you have filed for our type of bankruptcy!

Then to find out my bank US Bank does not work with outside negotiator's, so that is that until we close but by then it might be to late.

Next we try for another loan modification but they don't do more than one modification. Even though it is allowed by the govt. But they are not forced to do any loan mods because they gave back some of the tarp money.

So we are applying for a type of modification that puts what we owe on the back end. but after 3 faxed doc from our house we took the doc's to the bank branch and let them fax them,, still no luck.. Are we surprised. So Take and mail two sets of the doc's one overnight with signature and one through reg mail..

Now they are working on it but need more info, info I already sent in. I have read some really harsh thngs against US Bank and feel I will proably have to go past this point but with the sale date at the end of march I am running out of time.Will proably take you up on the lawyer referal, because i don't think I can trust non know

@ Christine Kerran posted on 1/27 K2 law is a scam and if you work for them you are a scammer also. Please visit www.kramer-kaslow.com and read the non authorized supposed comp that are actually scammers. Mr Kramer has issued cease and disist orders, K2 law is at the top of the list. How about they give the money back they stole. If you also read Mr Kramer is also sueing them.

@ Christine Kerran posted on 1/27 K2 law is a scam and if you work for them you are a scammer also. Please visit www.kramer-kaslow.com and read the non authorized supposed comp that are actually scammers. Mr Kramer has issued cease and disist orders, K2 law is at the top of the list. How about they give the money back they stole. If you also read Mr Kramer is also sueing them.

@ Christine Kerran posted on 1/27 K2 law is a scam and if you work for them you are a scammer also. Please visit www.kramer-kaslow.com and read the non authorized supposed comp that are actually scammers. Mr Kramer has issued cease and disist orders, K2 law is at the top of the list. How about they give the money back they stole. If you also read Mr Kramer is also sueing them.

@ Christine Kerran posted on 1/27 K2 law is a scam and if you work for them you are a scammer also. Please visit www.kramer-kaslow.com and read the non authorized supposed comp that are actually scammers. Mr Kramer has issued cease and disist orders, K2 law is at the top of the list. How about they give the money back they stole. If you also read Mr Kramer is also sueing them.

@ Christine Kerran posted on 1/27 K2 law is a scam and if you work for them you are a scammer also. Please visit www.kramer-kaslow.com and read the non authorized supposed comp that are actually scammers. Mr Kramer has issued cease and disist orders, K2 law is at the top of the list. How about they give the money back they stole. If you also read Mr Kramer is also sueing them.

Christine Kerran was just hoping to confuse people so that the scammers can get more money out of a few more people. But I have to say they are now opened up as Mass litigation alliance copy cat with the website Litigation Alliance.com. They are now pushing loan modification's AGAIN! I have found many other false name websites out there. The amount of people scammed must be astronomical. Jason Messer posted on this site a few months ago, cruising for clients by offering to help get them in the case! So I know they are watching and looking for people they can sucker. I am calling the Real Kramer on Monday! I suggest checking the phone number's of anyone you are thinking of working with. But keep in mind K2- changed there phone and address when they started acting as mass litigation alliance.

Keep going along with what bank asks and take notes etc. You should have plenty of time to find a lawyer and review your situation. If they keep making it difficult with losing documents etc it will strengthen your case. Don't volunteer any information to bank as to lawyer etc until you get legal help. What city are you in? or leave email I can send you complete list.

I advise everyone to read the comments on Loansafe.org:

http://www.loansafe.org/forum/stop-foreclosure-tell-us-your-story/36967-...

And ML-Implode:

http://forum.ml-implode.com/viewtopic.php?t=139164

http://implode-explode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=140712

The stories about Mass Litigation Alliance make Kramer & Kaslow look worse. Their website shows Matt Davis and Mass Litigation Alliance as an approved National Intake partner and approved Of Counsel law firm (in case this changes, I posted copies of the websites on Loansafe). The new kramerkaslowpc.com website did show a Cease & Desist for Mass Litigation Alliance on the warning page, but they initially forgot to remove the Mass Litigation Alliance and Matt Davis from their main page (I saved a copy and posted to Loansafe.org).

At this point, the onus is on Kramer to prove he was not involved in the mass marketing that one insider described as a pyramid scheme on Loansafe.org. This situation has morphed into a financial shell game of pandemic proportions. Again, the onus is now on Mr. Kramer to clear his name, and consumers should think twice about playing russian roulette with their financial resources that could be put to work in saving their home or finding a replacement residence.

Let Mr. Kramer fend for himself and PROVE his innocence rather than simply swallow the words of Piggy Bank Blog and their excuse that Mass Litigation Alliance is responsible. For the record, Mass Litigation Alliance is a new company that was recently created, and Kramer & Kaslows site does link their website. It is hard to claim innocence while feathers are still in one's mouth.

Mind blowing confusing and misleading!

I was told by the California State BAR that the investigator for cases where people are being defrauded by attorneys offering to do loan modifications is Tom Laton 213-765-1192. I have left messages, but no one has returned my call or confirmed this contact information. Some attorneys have been severely sanctioned already over such unethical business tactics associated with loan modifications. I am curious if there is a case in the works for the Kramer attorneys and/or Mitchell Stein, and/or Mesa Law Group. Please post if you find out one way or the other.

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The six law firms involved in the litigation demand that the loan be set at 2% interest with a 40 yr repayment option. This takes 30 days, then if the banks do not respond they go after Principle reduction, then with no response they demand that the note be dismissed, then damages each time the bank will not play ball. You could lose your home if you did not go through a firm that can stop trustee sales. Make sure you do, this could take 2yrs to be over. If you expect this to have instant results then you have been duped. Sorry folks it is a law suit, they move at a snails pace. Do your due diligence before you jump into anything. Ask questions and be accountable for what you do.

The facts are the facts, there is a strong side. The banks screwed up royally for reason after reason, and created the unstable housing market. We can all go online and complain all night about a company that we had to pay money to help us save our house when we can't afford to pay the mtg, and if they do it they are heroes, but when they can't they are a bunch of thieves andscumbag phone sales people. Just like when everyone got there cash out refis the broker was executing by the banks standards. The banks standards were POOR! hence my mom being able to pull out 100k out of her house 6 yrs agowhich is now upside down by 150 k go figure. This is all common knowledge that the banks did this/ google linda green/ or docx. this is not some crazy conspiricy theory. as far as attorneys I would not be surprised if they are trying to get as many people involved as possible. just seems like everyone goes online to complain... that is my complaint tonight!

PHILLIP A. KRAMER OF KRAMER AND KASLOW IS THE REAL DEAL. My wife and I have been added to the amended lawsuit and are very pleased. This process took a while and we were beginning to have our doubts, but you got to remember how much personnel it takes to represent thousands of people in a mass joinder lawsuit. Be patient with them, and you will be represented. We know this litigation could take some time. All we can do is pray that the outcome will be in our favor.

Hi Manny, I am one of the Kramer and Kaslow clients since last August 2010, I met with the Kaslow and Kramer staff at the Calabasas office and signed up for the law suit and paid $18000, i am so scared and i read the report that the Kramer and Kaslow office has been shut down, I don't know what to blieve.
Do you really think this company is a leget or a scam, please write to me I am so scared and i am in debt, I tougth this company can help me, But I am hearing very bad news about them, How do you know that this company is saying the truth, because everytime I asked them what would happen with this law suit, they say they don't know,,, Regards ,,,,Frank

The lawyer in Calabasas was the real lawyer at least but, did he do illegal things that will jeopardize his clients and this lawsuit. There were alot of people pretending to be with him and with the lawsuit and then you would definitely be in big trouble. Good luck! What took the government 9 months after I knew it was a scam to bust these guys.

@ Chris in Oceanside - it sounds like you are on the same K&K email thread as me and got the emails and docs from Paul Young at Consolidated Litigation Group. The last time we heard from him was right after Labor Day when he gave us the 45-day story about the court proceedings but we have since found out that he has left CLG, one of the many K&K intake firms, for greener pastures called employment. Since then, I have never heard or read another word, either in the press, online on blogs, etc about the state case against Kramer - can't find a thing about it anywhere. In the meantime, those of us who are unemployed, borrowed money to join the lawsuit, believed in the cases against the banks (what the whole Occupy Wall Street movement is now about!), and are now dealing with a foreclosed home and sale date of Nov. 7th are having a very hard time and don't know where to go for help. All you get when you call the CA State Bar is a recording of instructions on how to get your K&K file back and then to call a referral line for help finding a new attorney. What are you doing for help with all of this? K&K was supposed to file a lis pendens on our property once we received our Notice of Sale in order to protect us from foreclosure but the firm was closed down just before we received it. We are now a victim of the actions of the Atty General who apparently has yet to prove something against Mr. Kramer as far as I know. Do you know anything about the current status of that case? I find stuff online about Mitchell Stein and how he's been fighting the AG but I haven't seen anything about the AG case against Kramer since Labor Day...